Take it easy before the remap?

[Lucastheone92]

Basically, yeah. The standard valve opens at a lower pressure. So it just helps maintain the higher pressure that the Loba is capable of producing.

Niki's 2+ maps (on the k04 at least) are apparently very tractable, with 1:1 throttle mapping etc. So you should be able to get the power down nicely with a tempered right foot! Obviously good tyres, suspension etc all help. Once you're up into 3rd you should be able to go WOT. And take off!

Oh right ok I get it. Guessing it would make sense to get the pump fitted at the same time as the return valve from a labour point of view?

That's reassuring. My mate has just bought an s3 8p and that thing sticks to the road like glue! But as impressive as it is it's a bit too tame. I like a bit of drama when I'm driving!


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I think it's an inlet manifold off job. Bit more involved than the pump. But get them both fitted at the same time, no reason not to.

Yeah I often crave AWD, but 2WD has its perks. Once you're rolling it's plenty of fun. Things are warming up a bit now too, so traction's less of an issue. In the middle of winter though, anything down past 6 degrees or so, it's a bit silly - mine will spin up in 3rd, and I'm on decent tyres!

You think it will be noticeable after fitting them even before the remap?

Yeah I know what you mean, my friend invited me out for a drive even in the rain and I have to decline as I wouldn't enjoy it much.

Also planned on getting an anti lift kit at some point which should help. Which tyres are you running? I'm currently on Michelin ps3's.


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Theoretically you shouldn't feel much of a performance increase from the pump until it's mapped to request more fuel, but in practice you really do. Along with the BCS and other bolt ons you'll definitely feel it. Then after the 2+ map it'll be like a different car.

Anti lift is on my to-do list. I'm hoping to get some coilovers so might do it at the same time.

Maybe look into uprated engine mounts too. They'll make a big difference in terms of reducing wheel hop and helping with power delivery.

I'm on PS4 at the front and Super Sport on the back. Had Super Sport all round but they'd jumped in price when I'd got through the fronts, so tried PS4. They're good. Really not far behind the Super Sports.

PS3 are maybe a bit more of an all-rounder, but still a good tyre. See how you go. When you need new ones, there's the new PS4S (not to be confused with the normal PS4) which is pretty much the replacement for the Super Sport.

I am really looking forward to the new map. I'm fairly new to tuning considering my previous car was a 75bhp polo and I'm always wondering how tuning affects the overall reliability of the car.

Yeah wheel hop really makes me cringe! Did you notice much difference from the lower engine mount insert that came with your bcs?

So are the ps4s ones considered the latest and greatest?


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[AJP]

Basically, yeah. The standard valve opens at a lower pressure. So it just helps maintain the higher pressure that the Loba is capable of producing.

Niki's 2+ maps (on the k04 at least) are apparently very tractable, with 1:1 throttle mapping etc. So you should be able to get the power down nicely with a tempered right foot! Obviously good tyres, suspension etc all help. Once you're up into 3rd you should be able to go WOT. And take off!

Oh right ok I get it. Guessing it would make sense to get the pump fitted at the same time as the return valve from a labour point of view?

That's reassuring. My mate has just bought an s3 8p and that thing sticks to the road like glue! But as impressive as it is it's a bit too tame. I like a bit of drama when I'm driving!


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I think it's an inlet manifold off job. Bit more involved than the pump. But get them both fitted at the same time, no reason not to.

Yeah I often crave AWD, but 2WD has its perks. Once you're rolling it's plenty of fun. Things are warming up a bit now too, so traction's less of an issue. In the middle of winter though, anything down past 6 degrees or so, it's a bit silly - mine will spin up in 3rd, and I'm on decent tyres!

You think it will be noticeable after fitting them even before the remap?

Yeah I know what you mean, my friend invited me out for a drive even in the rain and I have to decline as I wouldn't enjoy it much.

Also planned on getting an anti lift kit at some point which should help. Which tyres are you running? I'm currently on Michelin ps3's.


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Theoretically you shouldn't feel much of a performance increase from the pump until it's mapped to request more fuel, but in practice you really do. Along with the BCS and other bolt ons you'll definitely feel it. Then after the 2+ map it'll be like a different car.

Anti lift is on my to-do list. I'm hoping to get some coilovers so might do it at the same time.

Maybe look into uprated engine mounts too. They'll make a big difference in terms of reducing wheel hop and helping with power delivery.

I'm on PS4 at the front and Super Sport on the back. Had Super Sport all round but they'd jumped in price when I'd got through the fronts, so tried PS4. They're good. Really not far behind the Super Sports.

PS3 are maybe a bit more of an all-rounder, but still a good tyre. See how you go. When you need new ones, there's the new PS4S (not to be confused with the normal PS4) which is pretty much the replacement for the Super Sport.

I am really looking forward to the new map. I'm fairly new to tuning considering my previous car was a 75bhp polo and I'm always wondering how tuning affects the overall reliability of the car.

Yeah wheel hop really makes me cringe! Did you notice much difference from the lower engine mount insert that came with your bcs?

So are the ps4s ones considered the latest and greatest?


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I didn't notice much difference from the insert to be honest. I get the impression full replacement mounts would be the way to go. Not cheap though. If anything, the insert helps to prevent flex on the downpipe, so it serves its purpose.

Yeah PS4S are apparently a step up from PS4. To be honest though I'm really happy with PS4. I doubt PS4S or Super Sport really give you that much more grip in general road use - maybe for a dedicated track car they're worth the extra cost.

[Lucastheone92]

Basically, yeah. The standard valve opens at a lower pressure. So it just helps maintain the higher pressure that the Loba is capable of producing.

Niki's 2+ maps (on the k04 at least) are apparently very tractable, with 1:1 throttle mapping etc. So you should be able to get the power down nicely with a tempered right foot! Obviously good tyres, suspension etc all help. Once you're up into 3rd you should be able to go WOT. And take off!

Oh right ok I get it. Guessing it would make sense to get the pump fitted at the same time as the return valve from a labour point of view?

That's reassuring. My mate has just bought an s3 8p and that thing sticks to the road like glue! But as impressive as it is it's a bit too tame. I like a bit of drama when I'm driving!


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I think it's an inlet manifold off job. Bit more involved than the pump. But get them both fitted at the same time, no reason not to.

Yeah I often crave AWD, but 2WD has its perks. Once you're rolling it's plenty of fun. Things are warming up a bit now too, so traction's less of an issue. In the middle of winter though, anything down past 6 degrees or so, it's a bit silly - mine will spin up in 3rd, and I'm on decent tyres!

You think it will be noticeable after fitting them even before the remap?

Yeah I know what you mean, my friend invited me out for a drive even in the rain and I have to decline as I wouldn't enjoy it much.

Also planned on getting an anti lift kit at some point which should help. Which tyres are you running? I'm currently on Michelin ps3's.


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Theoretically you shouldn't feel much of a performance increase from the pump until it's mapped to request more fuel, but in practice you really do. Along with the BCS and other bolt ons you'll definitely feel it. Then after the 2+ map it'll be like a different car.

Anti lift is on my to-do list. I'm hoping to get some coilovers so might do it at the same time.

Maybe look into uprated engine mounts too. They'll make a big difference in terms of reducing wheel hop and helping with power delivery.

I'm on PS4 at the front and Super Sport on the back. Had Super Sport all round but they'd jumped in price when I'd got through the fronts, so tried PS4. They're good. Really not far behind the Super Sports.

PS3 are maybe a bit more of an all-rounder, but still a good tyre. See how you go. When you need new ones, there's the new PS4S (not to be confused with the normal PS4) which is pretty much the replacement for the Super Sport.

I am really looking forward to the new map. I'm fairly new to tuning considering my previous car was a 75bhp polo and I'm always wondering how tuning affects the overall reliability of the car.

Yeah wheel hop really makes me cringe! Did you notice much difference from the lower engine mount insert that came with your bcs?

So are the ps4s ones considered the latest and greatest?


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I didn't notice much difference from the insert to be honest. I get the impression full replacement mounts would be the way to go. Not cheap though. If anything, the insert helps to prevent flex on the downpipe, so it serves its purpose.

Yeah PS4S are apparently a step up from PS4. To be honest though I'm really happy with PS4. I doubt PS4S or Super Sport really give you that much more grip in general road use - maybe for a dedicated track car they're worth the extra cost.

Im pretty happy with my ps3's but I'm keen to try the ps4's when I'm due some new ones.

I've started a thread in the loba pump so we will see what comes about it.


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[AJP]

Basically, yeah. The standard valve opens at a lower pressure. So it just helps maintain the higher pressure that the Loba is capable of producing.

Niki's 2+ maps (on the k04 at least) are apparently very tractable, with 1:1 throttle mapping etc. So you should be able to get the power down nicely with a tempered right foot! Obviously good tyres, suspension etc all help. Once you're up into 3rd you should be able to go WOT. And take off!

Oh right ok I get it. Guessing it would make sense to get the pump fitted at the same time as the return valve from a labour point of view?

That's reassuring. My mate has just bought an s3 8p and that thing sticks to the road like glue! But as impressive as it is it's a bit too tame. I like a bit of drama when I'm driving!


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I think it's an inlet manifold off job. Bit more involved than the pump. But get them both fitted at the same time, no reason not to.

Yeah I often crave AWD, but 2WD has its perks. Once you're rolling it's plenty of fun. Things are warming up a bit now too, so traction's less of an issue. In the middle of winter though, anything down past 6 degrees or so, it's a bit silly - mine will spin up in 3rd, and I'm on decent tyres!

You think it will be noticeable after fitting them even before the remap?

Yeah I know what you mean, my friend invited me out for a drive even in the rain and I have to decline as I wouldn't enjoy it much.

Also planned on getting an anti lift kit at some point which should help. Which tyres are you running? I'm currently on Michelin ps3's.


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Theoretically you shouldn't feel much of a performance increase from the pump until it's mapped to request more fuel, but in practice you really do. Along with the BCS and other bolt ons you'll definitely feel it. Then after the 2+ map it'll be like a different car.

Anti lift is on my to-do list. I'm hoping to get some coilovers so might do it at the same time.

Maybe look into uprated engine mounts too. They'll make a big difference in terms of reducing wheel hop and helping with power delivery.

I'm on PS4 at the front and Super Sport on the back. Had Super Sport all round but they'd jumped in price when I'd got through the fronts, so tried PS4. They're good. Really not far behind the Super Sports.

PS3 are maybe a bit more of an all-rounder, but still a good tyre. See how you go. When you need new ones, there's the new PS4S (not to be confused with the normal PS4) which is pretty much the replacement for the Super Sport.

I am really looking forward to the new map. I'm fairly new to tuning considering my previous car was a 75bhp polo and I'm always wondering how tuning affects the overall reliability of the car.

Yeah wheel hop really makes me cringe! Did you notice much difference from the lower engine mount insert that came with your bcs?

So are the ps4s ones considered the latest and greatest?


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I didn't notice much difference from the insert to be honest. I get the impression full replacement mounts would be the way to go. Not cheap though. If anything, the insert helps to prevent flex on the downpipe, so it serves its purpose.

Yeah PS4S are apparently a step up from PS4. To be honest though I'm really happy with PS4. I doubt PS4S or Super Sport really give you that much more grip in general road use - maybe for a dedicated track car they're worth the extra cost.

Im pretty happy with my ps3's but I'm keen to try the ps4's when I'm due some new ones.

I've started a thread in the loba pump so we will see what comes about it.


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Cool. Good luck with it bud. Like I said, there's a 99% chance you'll be fine but it doesn't hurt to check. Those PS3s won't last long once you've got full boost from that k04!

(Not jealous)

[Lucastheone92]

Basically, yeah. The standard valve opens at a lower pressure. So it just helps maintain the higher pressure that the Loba is capable of producing.

Niki's 2+ maps (on the k04 at least) are apparently very tractable, with 1:1 throttle mapping etc. So you should be able to get the power down nicely with a tempered right foot! Obviously good tyres, suspension etc all help. Once you're up into 3rd you should be able to go WOT. And take off!

Oh right ok I get it. Guessing it would make sense to get the pump fitted at the same time as the return valve from a labour point of view?

That's reassuring. My mate has just bought an s3 8p and that thing sticks to the road like glue! But as impressive as it is it's a bit too tame. I like a bit of drama when I'm driving!


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I think it's an inlet manifold off job. Bit more involved than the pump. But get them both fitted at the same time, no reason not to.

Yeah I often crave AWD, but 2WD has its perks. Once you're rolling it's plenty of fun. Things are warming up a bit now too, so traction's less of an issue. In the middle of winter though, anything down past 6 degrees or so, it's a bit silly - mine will spin up in 3rd, and I'm on decent tyres!

You think it will be noticeable after fitting them even before the remap?

Yeah I know what you mean, my friend invited me out for a drive even in the rain and I have to decline as I wouldn't enjoy it much.

Also planned on getting an anti lift kit at some point which should help. Which tyres are you running? I'm currently on Michelin ps3's.


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Theoretically you shouldn't feel much of a performance increase from the pump until it's mapped to request more fuel, but in practice you really do. Along with the BCS and other bolt ons you'll definitely feel it. Then after the 2+ map it'll be like a different car.

Anti lift is on my to-do list. I'm hoping to get some coilovers so might do it at the same time.

Maybe look into uprated engine mounts too. They'll make a big difference in terms of reducing wheel hop and helping with power delivery.

I'm on PS4 at the front and Super Sport on the back. Had Super Sport all round but they'd jumped in price when I'd got through the fronts, so tried PS4. They're good. Really not far behind the Super Sports.

PS3 are maybe a bit more of an all-rounder, but still a good tyre. See how you go. When you need new ones, there's the new PS4S (not to be confused with the normal PS4) which is pretty much the replacement for the Super Sport.

I am really looking forward to the new map. I'm fairly new to tuning considering my previous car was a 75bhp polo and I'm always wondering how tuning affects the overall reliability of the car.

Yeah wheel hop really makes me cringe! Did you notice much difference from the lower engine mount insert that came with your bcs?

So are the ps4s ones considered the latest and greatest?


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I didn't notice much difference from the insert to be honest. I get the impression full replacement mounts would be the way to go. Not cheap though. If anything, the insert helps to prevent flex on the downpipe, so it serves its purpose.

Yeah PS4S are apparently a step up from PS4. To be honest though I'm really happy with PS4. I doubt PS4S or Super Sport really give you that much more grip in general road use - maybe for a dedicated track car they're worth the extra cost.

Im pretty happy with my ps3's but I'm keen to try the ps4's when I'm due some new ones.

I've started a thread in the loba pump so we will see what comes about it.


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Cool. Good luck with it bud. Like I said, there's a 99% chance you'll be fine but it doesn't hurt to check. Those PS3s won't last long once you've got full boost from that k04!

(Not jealous)

Thanks again mate.


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[Lucastheone92]

Basically, yeah. The standard valve opens at a lower pressure. So it just helps maintain the higher pressure that the Loba is capable of producing.

Niki's 2+ maps (on the k04 at least) are apparently very tractable, with 1:1 throttle mapping etc. So you should be able to get the power down nicely with a tempered right foot! Obviously good tyres, suspension etc all help. Once you're up into 3rd you should be able to go WOT. And take off!

Oh right ok I get it. Guessing it would make sense to get the pump fitted at the same time as the return valve from a labour point of view?

That's reassuring. My mate has just bought an s3 8p and that thing sticks to the road like glue! But as impressive as it is it's a bit too tame. I like a bit of drama when I'm driving!


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I think it's an inlet manifold off job. Bit more involved than the pump. But get them both fitted at the same time, no reason not to.

Yeah I often crave AWD, but 2WD has its perks. Once you're rolling it's plenty of fun. Things are warming up a bit now too, so traction's less of an issue. In the middle of winter though, anything down past 6 degrees or so, it's a bit silly - mine will spin up in 3rd, and I'm on decent tyres!

You think it will be noticeable after fitting them even before the remap?

Yeah I know what you mean, my friend invited me out for a drive even in the rain and I have to decline as I wouldn't enjoy it much.

Also planned on getting an anti lift kit at some point which should help. Which tyres are you running? I'm currently on Michelin ps3's.


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Theoretically you shouldn't feel much of a performance increase from the pump until it's mapped to request more fuel, but in practice you really do. Along with the BCS and other bolt ons you'll definitely feel it. Then after the 2+ map it'll be like a different car.

Anti lift is on my to-do list. I'm hoping to get some coilovers so might do it at the same time.

Maybe look into uprated engine mounts too. They'll make a big difference in terms of reducing wheel hop and helping with power delivery.

I'm on PS4 at the front and Super Sport on the back. Had Super Sport all round but they'd jumped in price when I'd got through the fronts, so tried PS4. They're good. Really not far behind the Super Sports.

PS3 are maybe a bit more of an all-rounder, but still a good tyre. See how you go. When you need new ones, there's the new PS4S (not to be confused with the normal PS4) which is pretty much the replacement for the Super Sport.

I am really looking forward to the new map. I'm fairly new to tuning considering my previous car was a 75bhp polo and I'm always wondering how tuning affects the overall reliability of the car.

Yeah wheel hop really makes me cringe! Did you notice much difference from the lower engine mount insert that came with your bcs?

So are the ps4s ones considered the latest and greatest?


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I didn't notice much difference from the insert to be honest. I get the impression full replacement mounts would be the way to go. Not cheap though. If anything, the insert helps to prevent flex on the downpipe, so it serves its purpose.

Yeah PS4S are apparently a step up from PS4. To be honest though I'm really happy with PS4. I doubt PS4S or Super Sport really give you that much more grip in general road use - maybe for a dedicated track car they're worth the extra cost.

Im pretty happy with my ps3's but I'm keen to try the ps4's when I'm due some new ones.

I've started a thread in the loba pump so we will see what comes about it.


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Cool. Good luck with it bud. Like I said, there's a 99% chance you'll be fine but it doesn't hurt to check. Those PS3s won't last long once you've got full boost from that k04!

(Not jealous)

Hi mate, do you think I will need an intercooler? Someone mentioned I could suffer from heat soak? I've spent so much money already and insurance won't insure with intercooler (as crazy as it sounds). It's only additional hardware on r tech website.


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[Shoduchi]

It was I, who mentioned the IC. 

A S3 IC being an OEM part might pass unnoticed and will benefit the cooling a lot. 

I think it costs around £200-250 and you might find an used one for sale.

[AJP]

Basically, yeah. The standard valve opens at a lower pressure. So it just helps maintain the higher pressure that the Loba is capable of producing.

Niki's 2+ maps (on the k04 at least) are apparently very tractable, with 1:1 throttle mapping etc. So you should be able to get the power down nicely with a tempered right foot! Obviously good tyres, suspension etc all help. Once you're up into 3rd you should be able to go WOT. And take off!

Oh right ok I get it. Guessing it would make sense to get the pump fitted at the same time as the return valve from a labour point of view?

That's reassuring. My mate has just bought an s3 8p and that thing sticks to the road like glue! But as impressive as it is it's a bit too tame. I like a bit of drama when I'm driving!


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I think it's an inlet manifold off job. Bit more involved than the pump. But get them both fitted at the same time, no reason not to.

Yeah I often crave AWD, but 2WD has its perks. Once you're rolling it's plenty of fun. Things are warming up a bit now too, so traction's less of an issue. In the middle of winter though, anything down past 6 degrees or so, it's a bit silly - mine will spin up in 3rd, and I'm on decent tyres!

You think it will be noticeable after fitting them even before the remap?

Yeah I know what you mean, my friend invited me out for a drive even in the rain and I have to decline as I wouldn't enjoy it much.

Also planned on getting an anti lift kit at some point which should help. Which tyres are you running? I'm currently on Michelin ps3's.


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Theoretically you shouldn't feel much of a performance increase from the pump until it's mapped to request more fuel, but in practice you really do. Along with the BCS and other bolt ons you'll definitely feel it. Then after the 2+ map it'll be like a different car.

Anti lift is on my to-do list. I'm hoping to get some coilovers so might do it at the same time.

Maybe look into uprated engine mounts too. They'll make a big difference in terms of reducing wheel hop and helping with power delivery.

I'm on PS4 at the front and Super Sport on the back. Had Super Sport all round but they'd jumped in price when I'd got through the fronts, so tried PS4. They're good. Really not far behind the Super Sports.

PS3 are maybe a bit more of an all-rounder, but still a good tyre. See how you go. When you need new ones, there's the new PS4S (not to be confused with the normal PS4) which is pretty much the replacement for the Super Sport.

I am really looking forward to the new map. I'm fairly new to tuning considering my previous car was a 75bhp polo and I'm always wondering how tuning affects the overall reliability of the car.

Yeah wheel hop really makes me cringe! Did you notice much difference from the lower engine mount insert that came with your bcs?

So are the ps4s ones considered the latest and greatest?


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I didn't notice much difference from the insert to be honest. I get the impression full replacement mounts would be the way to go. Not cheap though. If anything, the insert helps to prevent flex on the downpipe, so it serves its purpose.

Yeah PS4S are apparently a step up from PS4. To be honest though I'm really happy with PS4. I doubt PS4S or Super Sport really give you that much more grip in general road use - maybe for a dedicated track car they're worth the extra cost.

Im pretty happy with my ps3's but I'm keen to try the ps4's when I'm due some new ones.

I've started a thread in the loba pump so we will see what comes about it.


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Cool. Good luck with it bud. Like I said, there's a 99% chance you'll be fine but it doesn't hurt to check. Those PS3s won't last long once you've got full boost from that k04!

(Not jealous)

Hi mate, do you think I will need an intercooler? Someone mentioned I could suffer from heat soak? I've spent so much money already and insurance won't insure with intercooler (as crazy as it sounds). It's only additional hardware on r tech website.


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You don't need one like you would if you lived on the equator. An S3 cooler would be nice to have, and would undoubtedly open up a few more ponies when you get the map. But you could run a slightly tamer map with your standard cooler. Speak to Niki about it if you can - he's the best person to advise on what hardware will work with his maps.

[Lucastheone92]

Well I guess the list goes on! I'm now on the hunt for an s3 cooler. Like you said hopefully an s3 cooler isn't noticeable.


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[Shoduchi]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Upgraded-Audi-S3-Intercooler-with-Alloy-End-Tanks-Factory-Seconds-/222426848413

[pudding]

Just get a 6R intercooler with OEM hoses.  Plastic ends, all bolts in like factory and looks no different to a GTI part......to the untrained eye.  Clued up insurance assessors will spot the alloy end tanks of the older S3 part.

[Shoduchi]

Just get a 6R intercooler with OEM hoses.  Plastic ends, all bolts in like factory and looks no different to a GTI part......to the untrained eye.  Clued up insurance assessors will spot the alloy end tanks of the older S3 part.

That's very true.

[AJP]

Just get a 6R intercooler with OEM hoses.  Plastic ends, all bolts in like factory and looks no different to a GTI part......to the untrained eye.  Clued up insurance assessors will spot the alloy end tanks of the older S3 part.

That's very true.

Is the 6R cooler definitely the same thing as an S3 cooler then (apart from the end tanks) in terms of core depth etc?

I mentioned the 6R one when I was at Statller a while ago and Steve said something along the lines of it not being much thicker than a GTI cooler. I didn't mention the S3 cooler, but from what he said it gave me the impression the 6R cooler wasn't quite up to the level of the S3 cooler in terms of performance.

But in reality then it's just the alloy end tanks, and the core is essentially the same between 6R and S3? Any other reason an S3 cooler might be better?

[Shoduchi]

@Pudding researched well about this. The new gen S3 8P shares the same IC with the Golf 6R. The new gen IC has a new core design to improve flow. The old gen has the alloy ends and, from what I was told from a local guy, it performs better than the new gen IC (he has a Scirocco R and replaced the IC). For the needs of a stock 6R and S3 the new gen is enough and it should be good for 350 BHP, so, much better than the GTI stock IC and won't look much different.

[AJP]

@Pudding researched well about this. The new gen S3 8P shares the same IC with the Golf 6R. The new gen IC has a new core design to improve flow. The old gen has the alloy ends and, from what I was told from a local guy, it performs better than the new gen IC (he has a Scirocco R and replaced the IC). For the needs of a stock 6R and S3 the new gen is enough, so it should be good for 350 BHP, so much better than the GTI stock IC and won't look much different.

Thanks for the info mate. 6R coolers do seem to be available for a bit less than the old alloy S3 version, so it's good to know it's a worthwhile option.