Best induction kit

[pudding]

EVOMS or REVO. End of.

Stay away from canister CAIs as they are sh*t for the all important flow plus trap all sorts of detritus making the already sh*t flow worse.

There is a great Mod section (top of the page inbetween Shop and Trending) on the forum with a really good Modification Catalouge in it, have a look there for inspiration.

Where's your evidence to back up that rather bold statement?

When was the last time you saw an F1 engine, or a supercar engine with a bit of pipe hanging off it with a plant pot shaped filter on the end? 

Revo must be laughing all the way to the bank.   £300 for a bit of a pipe with a cheap bit of foam on the end of it 

Oh most definitely.

Not sure about R&D, its a bit of pipe ffs lol

R&D isn't necessary when you only care about WOT and max rpm conditions 

Not even Racing line applied much diligence to their intake design.  None of them do, except APR.  The only company to include a rubber flex bellow to allow for engine movement, and they made sure it didn't rub on important coolant pipes, snapping them off.   The latter is absolutely ridiculous and inexcusable for £400.   Snap that hose off at 100mph, and that's your engine written off.   The Revo one also breaks off it's mounting lug through crap design.

And Oh look, the factory one lasts for years, does the best filtration job and supports over 330hp in KO4 applications. Yeah, I can see why people would prefer a noisy, cheap looking drain pipe over a properly engineered part 

[Paradox1]

EVOMS or REVO. End of.

Stay away from canister CAIs as they are sh*t for the all important flow plus trap all sorts of detritus making the already sh*t flow worse.

There is a great Mod section (top of the page inbetween Shop and Trending) on the forum with a really good Modification Catalouge in it, have a look there for inspiration.

Where's your evidence to back up that rather bold statement?

When was the last time you saw an F1 engine, or a supercar engine with a bit of pipe hanging off it with a plant pot shaped filter on the end? 

Revo must be laughing all the way to the bank.   £300 for a bit of a pipe with a cheap bit of foam on the end of it 

Oh most definitely.

Not sure about R&D, its a bit of pipe ffs lol

R&D isn't necessary when you only care about WOT and max rpm conditions 

Not even Racing line applied much diligence to their intake design.  None of them do, except APR.  The only company to include a rubber flex bellow to allow for engine movement, and they made sure it didn't rub on important coolant pipes, snapping them off.   The latter is absolutely ridiculous and inexcusable for £400.   Snap that hose off at 100mph, and that's your engine written off.   The Revo one also breaks off it's mounting lug through crap design.

And Oh look, the factory one lasts for years, does the best filtration job and supports over 330hp in KO4 applications. Yeah, I can see why people would prefer a noisy, cheap looking drain pipe over a properly engineered part 

lol I agree. I think its more tuning companies saying you need this, that and the 3rd to achieve X amount of power.

I had my intake bracket snap but luckily nothing went into the turbo.

[pudding]

Aye.  I guess they wouldn't get much business if everyone was happy with a stage 1 map on standard hardware 

It's just frustrating for an old man like myself to watch people wasting their money, and getting smoking turbos / engines in return for their hard earned cash.

[Sleepy]

EVOMS or REVO. End of.

Stay away from canister CAIs as they are sh*t for the all important flow plus trap all sorts of detritus making the already sh*t flow worse.

There is a great Mod section (top of the page inbetween Shop and Trending) on the forum with a really good Modification Catalouge in it, have a look there for inspiration.

Where's your evidence to back up that rather bold statement?

When was the last time you saw an F1 engine, or a supercar engine with a bit of pipe hanging off it with a plant pot shaped filter on the end? 

Revo must be laughing all the way to the bank.   £300 for a bit of a pipe with a cheap bit of foam on the end of it 

Oh most definitely.

Not sure about R&D, its a bit of pipe ffs lol

R&D isn't necessary when you only care about WOT and max rpm conditions 

Not even Racing line applied much diligence to their intake design.  None of them do, except APR.  The only company to include a rubber flex bellow to allow for engine movement, and they made sure it didn't rub on important coolant pipes, snapping them off.   The latter is absolutely ridiculous and inexcusable for £400.   Snap that hose off at 100mph, and that's your engine written off.   The Revo one also breaks off it's mounting lug through crap design.

And Oh look, the factory one lasts for years, does the best filtration job and supports over 330hp in KO4 applications. Yeah, I can see why people would prefer a noisy, cheap looking drain pipe over a properly engineered part 

Wish I knew this before. My VWR intake did exactly as stated to the coolant pipe ☹️

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[pudding]

I was close getting the VWR as it does seem to make some hp up top without sacrificing it down below, but that really bad design and lack of flex coupling put me off!  My car is my daily and I do a lot of miles, so modifications have to be reliable.

[shoaybmakda]

EVOMS or REVO. End of.

Stay away from canister CAIs as they are sh*t for the all important flow plus trap all sorts of detritus making the already sh*t flow worse.

There is a great Mod section (top of the page inbetween Shop and Trending) on the forum with a really good Modification Catalouge in it, have a look there for inspiration.

Where's your evidence to back up that rather bold statement?

When was the last time you saw an F1 engine, or a supercar engine with a bit of pipe hanging off it with a plant pot shaped filter on the end? 

Revo must be laughing all the way to the bank.   £300 for a bit of a pipe with a cheap bit of foam on the end of it 

Oh most definitely.

Not sure about R&D, its a bit of pipe ffs lol

R&D isn't necessary when you only care about WOT and max rpm conditions 

Not even Racing line applied much diligence to their intake design.  None of them do, except APR.  The only company to include a rubber flex bellow to allow for engine movement, and they made sure it didn't rub on important coolant pipes, snapping them off.   The latter is absolutely ridiculous and inexcusable for £400.   Snap that hose off at 100mph, and that's your engine written off.   The Revo one also breaks off it's mounting lug through crap design.

And Oh look, the factory one lasts for years, does the best filtration job and supports over 330hp in KO4 applications. Yeah, I can see why people would prefer a noisy, cheap looking drain pipe over a properly engineered part 

Wish I knew this before. My VWR intake did exactly as stated to the coolant pipe ☹️

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@Sleepy did on mine too mate - what did you do to rectify it or stop it from happening again?

[Craig Stanley]

Aye.  I guess they wouldn't get much business if everyone was happy with a stage 1 map on standard hardware 

It's just frustrating for an old man like myself to watch people wasting their money, and getting smoking turbos / engines in return for their hard earned cash.

Can you go stage 2+ on a standard airbox on a k03 as I'd rather not waste my money either.

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[Paradox1]

I believe so, I'm sure you dont need the intake.

[Craig Stanley]

Thats what I thought tbh. Anyway I don't really see the difference in a decent panel filter and an intake apart from the extortionate price

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[Paradox1]

to be honest, if i didnt enjoy the intake noise I wouldnt even bother with a aftermarket panel filter. just regular changes on the OEM paper filter will do.

[Craig Stanley]

to be honest, if i didnt enjoy the intake noise I wouldnt even bother with a aftermarket panel filter. just regular changes on the OEM paper filter will do.

Yeah I don't fancy a knackered turbo or the noise.

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[Shoduchi]

I was close getting the VWR as it does seem to make some hp up top without sacrificing it down below, but that really bad design and lack of flex coupling put me off!  My car is my daily and I do a lot of miles, so modifications have to be reliable.

Not sure if there's anything different with the position of the coolant pipes on a RHD engine but when I installed my VWR intake on my LHD BYD engine the box just touched the coolant T pipe. It doesn't apply any pressure, fortunately. I did notice that my thicker IC made the intake box be more backwards and that helped a bit, maybe.

About the flexing capability of the system, the box isn't attached to anything, it's just snugged in a round bracket, so it can move. The silicone elbow that's attached to the turbo can also flex with the engine's movement. So I think the system has enough flexibility. I do agree that the box should have been made a bit smaller so it wouldn't touch any coolant pipe.

It does help with the peak power above 6.250 rpm, from what I can compare from my dyno runs.

[Apearcey]

If you're wanting value for money then the Ram Air Oversized intake is best. If you're wanting best intake in terms of performance then go for either the Evoms or Revo. Personally I think the Revo one looks best and it sounds good.

I had it in mind that NO intake on the market has been proven to give "performance" - 3-5 HP at best, which you wouldn't even feel. I'm hoping for someone to prove me wrong?

[Shoduchi]

If you're wanting value for money then the Ram Air Oversized intake is best. If you're wanting best intake in terms of performance then go for either the Evoms or Revo. Personally I think the Revo one looks best and it sounds good.

I had it in mind that NO intake on the market has been proven to give "performance" - 3-5 HP at best, which you wouldn't even feel. I'm hoping for someone to prove me wrong?

My engine makes more 16-20 BHP with the VWR intake. I only replaced that part, the tune wasn't adjusted. My tuner told me that I need a minor adjustment after doing some logs with the CAI fitted.

[AJP]

If you're wanting value for money then the Ram Air Oversized intake is best. If you're wanting best intake in terms of performance then go for either the Evoms or Revo. Personally I think the Revo one looks best and it sounds good.

I had it in mind that NO intake on the market has been proven to give "performance" - 3-5 HP at best, which you wouldn't even feel. I'm hoping for someone to prove me wrong?

Plenty of graphs out there showing gains at high revs/peak BHP, often much more than 3-5BHP, too. @Shoduchi made 20bhp IIRC.

The argument is "are they worth it?" due to odd noises, poor fit, potential loss of torque at low revs, poor MAF scaling, blah blah.

Do they work? Yes. Moreso at 2/2+ and beyond.

Are they essential for a moderately tuned TFSI? No.

Can they be a pain in the arse to fit, and live with every day? Yes.

ETTO.

EDIT... Shoduchi beat me to it