Cam chain

[mkmg76]

Has anyone used the ebay cam chain kits from Germany?

They've been recommended to me by a mechanic mate but just want to double check quality/longevity if anyone has used them.

In particular i'm talking about this type of thing :

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Nockenwellenversteller-Rep-Satz-Audi-VW-Skoda-Seat-2-0-FSI-TFSI-06F109088J-G-C-/201690732631?epid=711433413&hash=item2ef5b45857:g:UEMAAOSwcgNZGfAJ

Cheers for any feedback

Mick.

[Alex Rhys]

I bought this kit;

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Timing-Chain-Set-Audi-Seat-Skoda-VW-2-0-TFSI-cdlh-AXX-BWA-BZC-CDLC-BHZ-CDLA-/382127988385?hash=item58f89a5ea1

It was significantly cheaper than UK prices and exactly the same kit.

[pudding]

Has anyone used the ebay cam chain kits from Germany?

They've been recommended to me by a mechanic mate but just want to double check quality/longevity if anyone has used them.

In particular i'm talking about this type of thing :

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Nockenwellenversteller-Rep-Satz-Audi-VW-Skoda-Seat-2-0-FSI-TFSI-06F109088J-G-C-/201690732631?epid=711433413&hash=item2ef5b45857:g:UEMAAOSwcgNZGfAJ

Cheers for any feedback

Mick.

Anything that isn't genuine is a gamble in terms of lifespan, so it's hard to comment really.   

I would only fit cheap pattern parts to a car I was shifting on.  Genuine only for my keepers.

[GTIEagles]

Mine has had a Febi Bilstein kit on for nearly a year now and it's all been fine. Their timing chain kits are highly rated.

[pudding]

I'd be interested to see if a Febi or other pattern kit lasts 100K miles, which is when I had to do mine on the Eddy.

[barelyrelevant]

Aren't Febi cheap crap with a bad reputation (for suspension parts at least) ?

[GTIEagles]

They carry a 100k, 5 year guarantee so can't be all that bad. I doubt the genuine parts are guaranteed for that long!

[mkmg76]

Thanks for input all, I've decided with engine critical components to go the genuine route with the chain kit. Not doing the cam adjuster at the moment so there's not that massive expense. 

[ducman77]

Best of luck with this mkmg76

Will be keeping a close eye on your progress and giving you marks out of ten 

Regards,
Dave

[pudding]

You don't need the VVT adjuster unless it gets damaged from removing it's bolt.  It's a silly little posidrive type head that rounds out VERY easily, so be careful!

[mkmg76]

Best of luck with this mkmg76

Will be keeping a close eye on your progress and giving you marks out of ten 

Regards,
Dave

Cheers Dave, you can pop round and make the tea if you like! 

You don't need the VVT adjuster unless it gets damaged from removing it's bolt.  It's a silly little posidrive type head that rounds out VERY easily, so be careful!

Cheers, I've read exactly that on a few threads so I asked VW to get me the correct tool while ordering the parts to (hopefully) lessen the chances of anything disastrous happening.

[pudding]

Best of luck with this mkmg76

Will be keeping a close eye on your progress and giving you marks out of ten 

Regards,
Dave

Cheers Dave, you can pop round and make the tea if you like! 

You don't need the VVT adjuster unless it gets damaged from removing it's bolt.  It's a silly little posidrive type head that rounds out VERY easily, so be careful!

Cheers, I've read exactly that on a few threads so I asked VW to get me the correct tool while ordering the parts to (hopefully) lessen the chances of anything disastrous happening.

Even with the VW tool, the only way to prevent it stripping out is with an impact gun, or getting someone to press hard onto the socket whilst you undo it, otherwise it will just strip out.  The recess for the toolbit is just way too shallow.  A nice long breaker bar required.  The torque needed to crack that bolt off is insane, considering it's only tightened to 40lbs or something low like that.  Genuine cam lock tool as well.  Cheap ones bend too much.

[mkmg76]

Best of luck with this mkmg76

Will be keeping a close eye on your progress and giving you marks out of ten 

Regards,
Dave

Cheers Dave, you can pop round and make the tea if you like! 

You don't need the VVT adjuster unless it gets damaged from removing it's bolt.  It's a silly little posidrive type head that rounds out VERY easily, so be careful!

Cheers, I've read exactly that on a few threads so I asked VW to get me the correct tool while ordering the parts to (hopefully) lessen the chances of anything disastrous happening.

Even with the VW tool, the only way to prevent it stripping out is with an impact gun, or getting someone to press hard onto the socket whilst you undo it, otherwise it will just strip out.  The recess for the toolbit is just way too shallow.  A nice long breaker bar required.  The torque needed to crack that bolt off is insane, considering it's only tightened to 40lbs or something low like that.  Genuine cam lock tool as well.  Cheap ones bend too much.

Ok, so you reckon an impact gun is the way to go? Last thing I would've thought if its soft but I can understand getting it out with one shock movement rather than letting it slip after a few attempts and rounding the head. I have a Snap-on battery impact gun that I can use on it. 

[pudding]

Best of luck with this mkmg76

Will be keeping a close eye on your progress and giving you marks out of ten 

Regards,
Dave

Cheers Dave, you can pop round and make the tea if you like! 

You don't need the VVT adjuster unless it gets damaged from removing it's bolt.  It's a silly little posidrive type head that rounds out VERY easily, so be careful!

Cheers, I've read exactly that on a few threads so I asked VW to get me the correct tool while ordering the parts to (hopefully) lessen the chances of anything disastrous happening.

Even with the VW tool, the only way to prevent it stripping out is with an impact gun, or getting someone to press hard onto the socket whilst you undo it, otherwise it will just strip out.  The recess for the toolbit is just way too shallow.  A nice long breaker bar required.  The torque needed to crack that bolt off is insane, considering it's only tightened to 40lbs or something low like that.  Genuine cam lock tool as well.  Cheap ones bend too much.

Ok, so you reckon an impact gun is the way to go? Last thing I would've thought if its soft but I can understand getting it out with one shock movement rather than letting it slip after a few attempts and rounding the head. I have a Snap-on battery impact gun that I can use on it. 

Yeah, I didn't use that method on mine, but it crossed my mind whilst pooing my pants with the 4 foot breaker bar that impacting it might be better..... that way you can do it solo and press hard onto the bolt at the same time.  Less bending going on with the cam lock tool as well.  I dunno, I'd be interested to hear from the pros how they get the bolt off!

[mkmg76]

Best of luck with this mkmg76

Will be keeping a close eye on your progress and giving you marks out of ten 

Regards,
Dave

Cheers Dave, you can pop round and make the tea if you like! 

You don't need the VVT adjuster unless it gets damaged from removing it's bolt.  It's a silly little posidrive type head that rounds out VERY easily, so be careful!

Cheers, I've read exactly that on a few threads so I asked VW to get me the correct tool while ordering the parts to (hopefully) lessen the chances of anything disastrous happening.

Even with the VW tool, the only way to prevent it stripping out is with an impact gun, or getting someone to press hard onto the socket whilst you undo it, otherwise it will just strip out.  The recess for the toolbit is just way too shallow.  A nice long breaker bar required.  The torque needed to crack that bolt off is insane, considering it's only tightened to 40lbs or something low like that.  Genuine cam lock tool as well.  Cheap ones bend too much.

Ok, so you reckon an impact gun is the way to go? Last thing I would've thought if its soft but I can understand getting it out with one shock movement rather than letting it slip after a few attempts and rounding the head. I have a Snap-on battery impact gun that I can use on it. 

Yeah, I didn't use that method on mine, but it crossed my mind whilst pooing my pants with the 4 foot breaker bar that impacting it might be better..... that way you can do it solo and press hard onto the bolt at the same time.  Less bending going on with the cam lock tool as well.  I dunno, I'd be interested to hear from the pros how they get the bolt off!

Haven't seen the bolt yet obviously, what head is on it? Just a posi +  or is it splined?