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Cheers for these responses, giving extra breadth and knowledge of your experiences and what to expect is extremely helpful; thanks :)

I'm going to remain confident but prepare myself for the worst... a hefty ( fairly undue ) fine and points like you @STV4R :( my only saving grace really, is I currently have Zero points atm.

Not sure if anyone knows for sure, but in my neck of the woods these things tend to take a while according to the Police website; in the region of 15 weeks to " lay " papers to the court; does this seem about right?  Or have I read that incorrectly?

I guess it really does depend now on a few things, those being how the JP feels on the day - how thickly the copper wants to push his explanation of events - and my driving history to date; which tbh isn't great, I've had a lot of speeding related fines over the years, but obviously at the moment a clean license... so perhaps shows some rehabilitation from previous convictions?

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Your driving record will count against you when it comes to punishment. Your driving record will be within the paperwork but cannot be used till after conviction.
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Your driving record will count against you when it comes to punishment. Your driving record will be within the paperwork but cannot be used till after conviction.

Really, that seems quite unfair, considering that those years have passed, I paid my fines, paid extra insurance costs... served my time so to speak yet they will be used against me years later.

If thats 100% correct which Im not suggesting it isnt, then Im fully screwed...

Ive had at least 20 points, all 3 point convictions but also a Section 59, in my driving years, not one rehabilation course and zero points at the moment.

Any guesses on points and fine Im going to receive? 


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...so even though according to the gov website my licence is completely clean and ALL points and issues have been automatically expunged over time served... these can be reincarnated to be used against me, to allow for higher fines and points during sentencing? Does anyone catergorically know?

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Amazing how Insurance quotes go wild with a CD10.

Currently paying £16 per month with eSure, mods declared, Zero Points - 38 y/o driving 20 years

With CD10; estimated 6 points on a standard GTI5 cheapest is £36 per month over 55% increase at best.


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Amazing how Insurance quotes go wild with a CD10.

Currently paying £16 per month with eSure, mods declared, Zero Points - 38 y/o driving 20 years

With CD10; estimated 6 points on a standard GTI5 cheapest is £36 per month over 55% increase at best.

I hate to upset you further but that's a 125% increase mate!!! Absolutely gutted for you.


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Amazing how Insurance quotes go wild with a CD10.

Currently paying £16 per month with eSure, mods declared, Zero Points - 38 y/o driving 20 years

With CD10; estimated 6 points on a standard GTI5 cheapest is £36 per month over 55% increase at best.

I hate to upset you further but that's a 125% increase mate!!! Absolutely gutted for you.

Hahahhaha, so it is, lol... and thanks, it is a hell of an increase, however at this point £20 a month isn't my first worry, it's a stupidly ridiculous fine based on things that happened 5 / 10 / 15 years ago, which I find utterly unfair tbh; a manoeuvre to avoid an accident plus increased speed, can cost you a £1k+ fine plus 5 years of increased insurance at another £1.2k... bit of bollocks really.

Mind you, people get fined for moving through a red light to save someone's life ( out of the way of an ambulance )


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Update: Received offer of FPN 3 points and £100 fine, so snapped that opportunity up and paid, however:  http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,113758.0.html

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Re: CD10 - Driving without due care and attention / Insurance / Points etc.
« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2017, 09:50:00 am »
...so even though according to the gov website my licence is completely clean and ALL points and issues have been automatically expunged over time served... these can be reincarnated to be used against me, to allow for higher fines and points during sentencing? Does anyone catergorically know?

Every case at court has a drivers previous driving history. It is only looked at if there is a guilty finding. As to whether it effects sentencing then only a magistrate can give you the answer. I was a Police Officer for 30 years and bad past record for any iffence imho effects the sentence.
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Re: CD10 - Driving without due care and attention / Insurance / Points etc.
« Reply #24 on: August 07, 2017, 09:50:40 am »
Update: Received offer of FPN 3 points and £100 fine, so snapped that opportunity up and paid, however:  http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,113758.0.html

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