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Re: Stage 1 for 500 miles - Boost Leak? - Advice Please!
« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2017, 04:31:23 pm »
No worries  :smiley:

I hope you get it sorted.  Must be frustrating not getting your full compliment of boost!


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Re: Stage 1 for 500 miles - Boost Leak? - Advice Please!
« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2017, 01:06:41 pm »
Just off the phone with R-Tech and they're saying I need to either drop the car off so they can look at it soon as they get a moment (1.5 hour trip up there then no way to get back home) or book a diagnostic slot at my cost, but this cant be done until late august!

Not sure what to do. If I book the slot Ill be really pi**ed off If I get there and it was something simple that I had missed after all.

I do understand the guys at R-Tech are busy and my problem is unknown so could take a while to diagnose...

Dunno what to go for!



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Re: Stage 1 for 500 miles - Boost Leak? - Advice Please!
« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2017, 02:27:33 pm »
Just off the phone with R-Tech and they're saying I need to either drop the car off so they can look at it soon as they get a moment (1.5 hour trip up there then no way to get back home) or book a diagnostic slot at my cost, but this cant be done until late august!

Not sure what to do. If I book the slot Ill be really pi**ed off If I get there and it was something simple that I had missed after all.

I do understand the guys at R-Tech are busy and my problem is unknown so could take a while to diagnose...

Dunno what to go for!
Why not see if you can get it booked in at AKS a bit sooner? They're one of the best regarded VAG specialists in the country.

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Re: Stage 1 for 500 miles - Boost Leak? - Advice Please!
« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2017, 02:41:18 pm »
Just off the phone with R-Tech and they're saying I need to either drop the car off so they can look at it soon as they get a moment (1.5 hour trip up there then no way to get back home) or book a diagnostic slot at my cost, but this cant be done until late august!

Not sure what to do. If I book the slot Ill be really pi**ed off If I get there and it was something simple that I had missed after all.

I do understand the guys at R-Tech are busy and my problem is unknown so could take a while to diagnose...

Dunno what to go for!
Why not see if you can get it booked in at AKS a bit sooner? They're one of the best regarded VAG specialists in the country.

Did give them a call at lunch time - they're fully booked until September!

I think I'm going to have to go over some of the checks I had made previously to be as sure as I can about what I've looked at. At which point, if all still looks okay as far as I can see, I'll have to book in to R-Tech.




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Re: Stage 1 for 500 miles - Boost Leak? - Advice Please!
« Reply #19 on: July 24, 2017, 02:46:10 pm »
Just off the phone with R-Tech and they're saying I need to either drop the car off so they can look at it soon as they get a moment (1.5 hour trip up there then no way to get back home) or book a diagnostic slot at my cost, but this cant be done until late august!

Not sure what to do. If I book the slot Ill be really pi**ed off If I get there and it was something simple that I had missed after all.

I do understand the guys at R-Tech are busy and my problem is unknown so could take a while to diagnose...

Dunno what to go for!
Why not see if you can get it booked in at AKS a bit sooner? They're one of the best regarded VAG specialists in the country.

Did give them a call at lunch time - they're fully booked until September!

I think I'm going to have to go over some of the checks I had made previously to be as sure as I can about what I've looked at. At which point, if all still looks okay as far as I can see, I'll have to book in to R-Tech.




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Dang. That is usually the case with the top specialists, unfortunately. Statller, R-Tech, AKS etc, a 5 week wait at least seems the norm.

There must be somewhere competent close by who can get you in sooner. The guys above are the ones you hear/read about the most, but that doesn't mean there aren't alternatives out there.

I'd be hitting Google like a machine if I was you. Waiting weeks for R-Tech would do my head in a bit.

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Re: Stage 1 for 500 miles - Boost Leak? - Advice Please!
« Reply #20 on: July 24, 2017, 03:05:25 pm »
Just off the phone with R-Tech and they're saying I need to either drop the car off so they can look at it soon as they get a moment (1.5 hour trip up there then no way to get back home) or book a diagnostic slot at my cost, but this cant be done until late august!

Not sure what to do. If I book the slot Ill be really pi**ed off If I get there and it was something simple that I had missed after all.

I do understand the guys at R-Tech are busy and my problem is unknown so could take a while to diagnose...

Dunno what to go for!
Why not see if you can get it booked in at AKS a bit sooner? They're one of the best regarded VAG specialists in the country.

Did give them a call at lunch time - they're fully booked until September!

I think I'm going to have to go over some of the checks I had made previously to be as sure as I can about what I've looked at. At which point, if all still looks okay as far as I can see, I'll have to book in to R-Tech.




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Dang. That is usually the case with the top specialists, unfortunately. Statller, R-Tech, AKS etc, a 5 week wait at least seems the norm.

There must be somewhere competent close by who can get you in sooner. The guys above are the ones you hear/read about the most, but that doesn't mean there aren't alternatives out there.

I'd be hitting Google like a machine if I was you. Waiting weeks for R-Tech would do my head in a bit.

This whole thing is doing me head in!

Trying to take a pragmatic approach and stay calm! You're right, someone closer may be able to do something. I really just want someone who is able to pressurise the charge air circuit so any leaks can be hunted down.

As a last ditch effort I'm gonna chuck in a pristine rev c diverter I have lying around. Just in case my current rev g is damaged in a way which wasn't obvious. After that I'll consider my next steps.

Can see this leading toward money and time to get somewhere who can do a smoke test just to find out e.g. My intercooler is damaged or something. But if that's what I need to do, it's got to be done! And if it had to be R-Tech or similar, so be it!


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Re: Stage 1 for 500 miles - Boost Leak? - Advice Please!
« Reply #21 on: July 24, 2017, 03:51:55 pm »
Just off the phone with R-Tech and they're saying I need to either drop the car off so they can look at it soon as they get a moment (1.5 hour trip up there then no way to get back home) or book a diagnostic slot at my cost, but this cant be done until late august!

Not sure what to do. If I book the slot Ill be really pi**ed off If I get there and it was something simple that I had missed after all.

I do understand the guys at R-Tech are busy and my problem is unknown so could take a while to diagnose...

Dunno what to go for!
Why not see if you can get it booked in at AKS a bit sooner? They're one of the best regarded VAG specialists in the country.

Did give them a call at lunch time - they're fully booked until September!

I think I'm going to have to go over some of the checks I had made previously to be as sure as I can about what I've looked at. At which point, if all still looks okay as far as I can see, I'll have to book in to R-Tech.




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Dang. That is usually the case with the top specialists, unfortunately. Statller, R-Tech, AKS etc, a 5 week wait at least seems the norm.

There must be somewhere competent close by who can get you in sooner. The guys above are the ones you hear/read about the most, but that doesn't mean there aren't alternatives out there.

I'd be hitting Google like a machine if I was you. Waiting weeks for R-Tech would do my head in a bit.

This whole thing is doing me head in!

Trying to take a pragmatic approach and stay calm! You're right, someone closer may be able to do something. I really just want someone who is able to pressurise the charge air circuit so any leaks can be hunted down.

As a last ditch effort I'm gonna chuck in a pristine rev c diverter I have lying around. Just in case my current rev g is damaged in a way which wasn't obvious. After that I'll consider my next steps.

Can see this leading toward money and time to get somewhere who can do a smoke test just to find out e.g. My intercooler is damaged or something. But if that's what I need to do, it's got to be done! And if it had to be R-Tech or similar, so be it!


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AFAIK a DV can indeed be leaky without being visibly faulty. It's worth a go, and won't cost you money to try. Just time and the usual fannying about under the arch! I've also read a thread or two regarding the DV not being fully 'home' when fitted, and exhibiting the usual boost leak symptoms, so that's another thing to check when you put the Rev C in.

I'm sure I've heard of another place in Cambridgeshire that does a bit of VAG stuff amoungst other things. I'll have a look...

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Re: Stage 1 for 500 miles - Boost Leak? - Advice Please!
« Reply #22 on: July 24, 2017, 03:56:35 pm »
These guys:

http://www.cjlraceengineering.com/

And taken from the Yell listing:

"Although we cater for all makes and models, we specialise in V.A.G chassis and engine platforms including the popular 1.8 Turbo and 2.0 TFSI applications and also all Caterham road and race applications."

Might be worth a call / email.

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« Reply #23 on: July 24, 2017, 03:57:50 pm »
You could try Stealth Racing in Southam.  Probably busy as well, but maybe not no appointments until September busy!

You could perhaps buy a DV+ and never have to go in there again.  £90ish isn't expensive for fit and forget imo.  If it doesn't solve it, at least that's one area of investigation you don't have pay someone £50-60 per hour to look over again.


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« Reply #24 on: July 24, 2017, 04:13:14 pm »
@AJP Ill report back, hopefully tomorrow, if I get a chance to make the swap back to the old dv tonight.

Googling for "boost leak test cambridge" or similar reveals no obvious results. I think this in itself is quite strange, considering the number of cars going about with turbochargers fitted these days. A couple of garages I have spoken to say they manage to find leaks without any way of pressurising the system. I mean, I can understand If a leak is obvious (e.g. a pipe dropped off) then this is the case, but who's to say any given charge air system couldn't have hard-to-see leaks affecting performance (maybe like I am experiencing, or even to a lesser degree). Would have thought some system to test for this would be bread and butter these days.

Thanks for the recommendations, I'll bear them in mind.

@Pudding the dv+ will be the way I go if it does in fact turn out to be the culprit. I have old boost logs from just before the revC came out showing It was fine before preemptive replacement, If boost is fine after going back in, ill leave it that way til I can get a dv+. If it still makes no difference, the revG will be going back in before seeking professional assistance(for both the car and my mental state, at this rate..)!  :rolleye:

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Re: Stage 1 for 500 miles - Boost Leak? - Advice Please!
« Reply #25 on: July 24, 2017, 04:37:55 pm »
Google Scotty Kilmer cigar smoke test  :grin:

Seriously.....he blew cigar smoke into an engine on one of his youtube clips!   There are a number of DIY smoke tester ideas that cost peanuts to make.  Might be worth a shot?


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« Reply #26 on: July 25, 2017, 11:44:06 am »
The old (immaculate) revC dv made no difference. One thing I can say is that over the 8 or 10 logs I've made in the last 10 days my results are always very consistent. Requested and achieved boost levels are always the same give or take a few hundred RPMs and 0.5PSI. At least I haven't made anything worse  :signLOL:

I've decided to stop with the DIY diagnosis and I'll be letting R-Tech have the car for a proper look. Means I'll be car-less until they get a chance to look it over and its a bit of a pain getting it there but in the end I've decided that it needs doing, so that's the way its got to be. I appreciate the ideas people have given that I didn't try (e.g. DIY smoke test), ultimately decided I've spent an awful lot of time hunting for the problem so far, so to avoid more wasted time and potential mis-diagnosis, its time for the professional to step in.

Will update with findings soon as I have them. Thanks for all of your help so far. 
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Re: Stage 1 for 500 miles - Boost Leak? - Advice Please!
« Reply #27 on: July 25, 2017, 01:28:30 pm »
Hi bud

I too tried phoning AKS a few times recently as they were recommended by quite a few people on this forum, however they were talking 5-6 weeks before they could even look at my Golf GTI.

I therefore searched around as I unfortunately couldn't wait that long and found a company called Vagtech in Milton Keynes. I know its a bit of a distance from Cambridge but they do have courtesy cars which might help the cause

Anyway just an idea  :happy2:

 
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« Reply #28 on: July 25, 2017, 09:28:18 pm »
Update!

R-Tech are looking into the issue. They went over the car earlier.

They checked all the usual suspects and didn't find anything (phew - I didn't miss something silly!) Pressure test showed no leaks at all. System held 20psi quite comfortably. The thinking now is that its either the N75 valve or even potentially could be the catalytic converter has become clogged (possibly as a result of my pre cat removal).

Should hear the diagnosis in the next few days. I may possibly need to source an OEM downpipe to get to R-tech at some point soon. Anyone got one going spare?
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Re: Stage 1 for 500 miles - Boost Leak? - Advice Please!
« Reply #29 on: July 26, 2017, 09:23:32 am »
Give BCS a call, they've probably got loads of OEM downpipes!

When you gutted your precat out, did you do it facing the floor so that none of the 'crumbs' fell back into the downpipe?   That's the only way the main cat would get blocked really.

N75 should fault code I would have thought? Underboost errors etc.


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