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Re: 118k Suspension refresh - Advice please
« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2017, 03:36:29 pm »
@reflexsilverfox any update pics of your car now on these st springs.
How do the ride compared to standard springs.

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Re: 118k Suspension refresh - Advice please
« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2017, 04:17:12 pm »
I have the shocks and springs, it's the kit. It's slightly firmer but rides quite close to oem. I'll try put some more up as the photo bucket photos don't show up now. The site changed they're rules


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Re: 118k Suspension refresh - Advice please
« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2017, 08:50:37 pm »



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Re: 118k Suspension refresh - Advice please
« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2017, 08:51:43 pm »
Finally got my alignment sorted tonight too and it's absolutely spot on now.


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Re: 118k Suspension refresh - Advice please
« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2017, 10:06:33 pm »
That ride height looks spot on. Might go for these springs.

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Re: 118k Suspension refresh - Advice please
« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2017, 05:19:00 pm »
Cheers for all the replies guys, currently on holiday will go through it when I'm back  :smiley:

I'll draw up a list of stuff and double check what you all think!

Thanks Again

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Re: 118k Suspension refresh - Advice please
« Reply #21 on: September 14, 2017, 04:32:31 pm »
Hi Guys, sorry for taking so long to get back to you all, my little one has been giving us grief so had no time! Finally got to read through all the replies properly  :smiley:

I have the shocks and springs, it's the kit. It's slightly firmer but rides quite close to oem. I'll try put some more up as the photo bucket photos don't show up now. The site changed they're rules

I'm quite tempted by this actually I do like how it sits on your car mate. its a tough one between this and the VWR kit tbh...

Does anyone have any experience on the RacingLine Anti Lift Kit, I noticed that it comes with the front bushes for the wishbone as well so would save me a few quid?
https://www.awesomegti.com/shop-by-brand/racingline-performance/racingline-front-suspension-bush-kit/

Also almost there with the list, constantly taking things out and back in to try and squeeze into my budget!!

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« Last Edit: September 14, 2017, 04:34:21 pm by Molesy »

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Re: 118k Suspension refresh - Advice please
« Reply #22 on: September 15, 2017, 10:04:14 am »
I'd get the SuperPro kit personally, better quality.  https://www.akstuning.co.uk/home/4-superpro-front-control-arm-rear-bush-kit.html

If you go onto Racing Line's site, you'll notice they've dropped the bushes from their product line-up.  A lot of the Racing Line stuff is over rated imo, but their spring/damper kit is very good.
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Re: 118k Suspension refresh - Advice please
« Reply #23 on: September 15, 2017, 11:26:29 am »
I'd get the SuperPro kit personally, better quality.  https://www.akstuning.co.uk/home/4-superpro-front-control-arm-rear-bush-kit.html

If you go onto Racing Line's site, you'll notice they've dropped the bushes from their product line-up.  A lot of the Racing Line stuff is over rated imo, but their spring/damper kit is very good.

Cheers Pudding, Superpro it is then, I have heard good things about that kit  :happy2:

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Re: 118k Suspension refresh - Advice please
« Reply #24 on: September 15, 2017, 02:17:10 pm »
Guys, final question before my list is finalised, for the top mounts and bearings - gave my local TPS a call and its going to be £67.78 for top mounts and £34.30 for the front bearings without any bolts so £102.08 for the just that. Found the link below on the PSI site which has upgraded ECS versions with the bolts needed for £114 seems like a better deal to me. Any thoughts on this?

http://www.psituning.com/product.php/25220/ecs_upgraded_front_strut_mount_kit___mk5_mk6_etc

Also found this kit on the same site which has all the bits with OEM top mounts

http://www.psituning.com/product.php/24025/coilover_shock_installation_kit___golf_mk5_6

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Re: 118k Suspension refresh - Advice please
« Reply #25 on: September 15, 2017, 03:25:17 pm »
The top link is a great deal if it's all genuine parts.  You never know with some of the US sellers....... lots of Chinese stuff over there.   

The bottom link doesn't mention if the mounts are standard or TT.   The rear top mounts rarely wear enough to justify replacement, but they are ~ £55 each from VW iirc, so again that is a good price.  Can't be all genuine parts at such a low price though!

I went with that stuff from the dealer.......just to be sure!:-

8J0 412 331, qty 2 - TT/RS3 rubber top mounts.
6N0 412 249D, qty 2 - Bearings. Yep, that is a Polo part number, but also lists for Audi....but not VW for some odd reason, they are the latest revision and work fine on MK5s.
N910 216 061, qty 2 Damper top nuts.
N101 277 07, qty 6 - Rubber mount securing bolts.
Plus the strut pinch bolt/nut, qty 2.
Driveshaft Bolt, qty 2.  Or if your CV boots look ropey, they come in a CV boot replacement kit, so do those whilst you're there. 

What ever you do, do not use GTI top mounts.  There's a good chance they will make an awful rubbery squelching noise over speed humps etc.   The TT ones do as well, but only a tiny bit compared to the GTI.   It's to do with their construction.   The metal part of the top mount when used with aftermarket uprated dampers causes it to move too much inside the rubber part of the mount, hence the noise.

034 Motorsport make some replacements with better vulcanizing of the rubber to metal to stop that problem from happening.  Awesome might import them.

Are you doing this work yourself?





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Re: 118k Suspension refresh - Advice please
« Reply #26 on: September 15, 2017, 04:48:05 pm »
Cheers Pudding you do know your stuff with this! I see that Awesome also seem to have these same up-rated mounts as well (see link below) albeit without the nuts required. I dropped Awesome an email and they are very well rated apparently and they are special order they get in once a month  from the US, and based on the TT ones - what do you think?

http://https://www.awesomegti.com/shop-by-brand/ecs-tuning/ecs-tuning-upgraded-front-strut-mount-kit/

Also found the whole kit which PSI was selling on the ECS website in the US and its not all OEM stuff or even up-rated so not sure about this now

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-assembled-by-ecs-parts/cup-kit-coilover-installation-kit/mk5ssktcomp~kt/

Thanks again for all the part numbers I'll give the TPS a bell tomorrow to see what the costings are like and especially thanks for the bolts that's the bit that worries me  :smiley:

Won't be doing myself, I know my way round a car but no mechanic, I'm trying to find a good Indy/VAG Specialist in my area atm. I used have a great one but I'm not that near them anymore and they were bloody expensive...

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Re: 118k Suspension refresh - Advice please
« Reply #27 on: September 15, 2017, 07:03:06 pm »
No worries mate.  90% of what I know came from this forum and/or members on here, so I'm just feeding back into the knowledge pool  :happy2:

The first link is dead for me but the second link looks pretty comprehensive!  PSI and Awesome make monthly orders, as you've discovered, so not ideal if you want stuff in a hurry.  I tend to buy from the dealers because they will only sell you the latest, superseded parts, and I do jobs on the weekends, so can get the parts next day.  Some of the resellers like ECS and PSI may not provide the latest stuff.

I've bought pretty much every stretch bolt on the car, so I might do a separate thread with part numbers for all of them, and torque specs, when I get time.

Speaking of which, with the driveshaft bolts, when you get them, check the shoulder face for smooth or knurled surfaces as they have VERY different torque specs. Just something to pass onto your mechanic  :happy2:







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Re: 118k Suspension refresh - Advice please
« Reply #28 on: September 16, 2017, 12:26:05 am »
Going to be doing a refresh on my suspension set up this weekend too.

New OEM shocks
Eibach pro kit springs
Drop links
Bunpstops
Topmounts and bearings

Can't wait to see how it feels after!

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Re: 118k Suspension refresh - Advice please
« Reply #29 on: September 18, 2017, 02:50:25 pm »
Going to be doing a refresh on my suspension set up this weekend too.

New OEM shocks
Eibach pro kit springs
Drop links
Bunpstops
Topmounts and bearings

Can't wait to see how it feels after!

Sounds good! How did it go?