camshaft cover sealant

[mycarnowork]

I have another thread of my car breaking down and found it to be a snapped cam chain. I have got the head off and refurbished and refitted it.

I am now at the point of fitting the camshafts and cover and see you need the vw sealant. I went to tps and it was like 80 or 90 pounds. Is there something else I can use?

Thanks

[mycarnowork]

I went to eurocarparts and got this stuff called vital red rtv.

http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/p/car-accessories/car-maintenance-accessories/car-adhesives-tapes-sealants/quick-gasket/?549773385&&cc5_139

Not sure if it is suitable.

I have been googling and this is meant to be OK to use I hope.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Victor-Reinz-Reinzoplast-80ml-Tube-Blue-/172385421440?epid=1165108674&hash=item2822f8c880:g:p7IAAOSwB09YDcfB

The thing is I have today and tomorrow off work so if that vital red stuff is OK then I could get some work done otherwise will need to wait till next weekend waiting for delivery of other sealant and hope it is suitable.

[pudding]

Wurth Flange Sealant is roughly half the price.

Don't use silicon.  It has to be the proper stuff.

If it were me I would be using the VW stuff.  What is £80 vs having to do it all again later down the line because the cheap stuff didn't do the job properly? 

[TeamKHK]

Wurth Flange Sealant is roughly half the price.

Don't use silicon.  It has to be the proper stuff.

If it were me I would be using the VW stuff.  What is £80 vs having to do it all again later down the line because the cheap stuff didn't do the job properly?

This. Stick to genuine VW for things like this - I had something similar on my old MK4 TDI where I needed a new rocker cover gasket and the garage I used at the time fitted a cheaper one from ECP that only lasted a few days before it had to be swapped again due to it being of poor quality & leaked oil.

Liam.

[pudding]

I know folk are cash strapped these days but certain things on these cars really are 'save now, pay later'.    Fine if it's a daily hack that will be moved on in 12 months, but if it's a keeper, it's better to use genuine parts.

No one likes a lecture, but I'm only saying it from experience 

[mycarnowork]

Wurth Flange Sealant is roughly half the price.

Don't use silicon.  It has to be the proper stuff.

If it were me I would be using the VW stuff.  What is £80 vs having to do it all again later down the line because the cheap stuff didn't do the job properly?

It just seems a massive piss take for a little tube of sealant when I've already spend several hundred pounds on parts and spent a lot of money on new tools to work on it. I'll have to think about it and prepare myself for the pain of VW having there way with my bum hole.

[mycarnowork]

I know folk are cash strapped these days but certain things on these cars really are 'save now, pay later'.    Fine if it's a daily hack that will be moved on in 12 months, but if it's a keeper, it's better to use genuine parts.

No one likes a lecture, but I'm only saying it from experience 

TPS are open till 6pm. If they have it in stock could get today. If I close my eyes when paying with my card maybe it wont hurt so much.

[fab5freddy]

Lads, at what point do you need sealant and where? I've seen several guides to doing this job and never seen mention of a sealant.

Sorry OP, to jump your thread, i'll being doing my cam chain soon, so would like to know...

[mycarnowork]

Lads, at what point do you need sealant and where? I've seen several guides to doing this job and never seen mention of a sealant.

Sorry OP, to jump your thread, i'll being doing my cam chain soon, so would like to know...

If your just changing the chain and tensioner the camshaft ladder/cover does not need to come off. I needed to get my cylinder head refurbished as I had bent valves due to the chain snapping. Don't know if the chain just snapped or the tentioner failed and made the chain snap.

[fab5freddy]

  I should have read the post properly. Cheers @mycarnowork

[doylebros]

Been given this to use plenty times and never had an issue

https://www.cromwell.co.uk/shop/adhesives-and-sealants/gaskets-and-jointing/5980-quick-gasket-black-40ml/p/LOC7255751K?utm_campaign=pla-Adhesives+%26+Sealants+-+&utm_source=google&utm_medium=shopping-pla&utm_keyword=LOC7255751K&istCompanyId=6aa6787b-063e-4414-802d-129f235df603&istItemId=aqrxxmaar&istBid=tztx&gclid=CjwKCAjw3f3NBRBPEiwAiiHxGDiXLuJ0CqCMzHPPDcnUaTGM8OCtLAUbhresOsxC4ma0Y63goAQRRBoCSw8QAvD_BwE

[mycarnowork]

Been given this to use plenty times and never had an issue

https://www.cromwell.co.uk/shop/adhesives-and-sealants/gaskets-and-jointing/5980-quick-gasket-black-40ml/p/LOC7255751K?utm_campaign=pla-Adhesives+%26+Sealants+-+&utm_source=google&utm_medium=shopping-pla&utm_keyword=LOC7255751K&istCompanyId=6aa6787b-063e-4414-802d-129f235df603&istItemId=aqrxxmaar&istBid=tztx&gclid=CjwKCAjw3f3NBRBPEiwAiiHxGDiXLuJ0CqCMzHPPDcnUaTGM8OCtLAUbhresOsxC4ma0Y63goAQRRBoCSw8QAvD_BwE

I've got some of that from when I did the oil sump. Have you used it for the camshaft carrier on a gti fsi engine?

I think I'll give this stuff a go. If it don't work or leaks in the future then I'll get the VW stuff. If I have to do it again it's just a little extra work and not the end of the world and should't take me that long.

[doylebros]

Been given this to use plenty times and never had an issue

https://www.cromwell.co.uk/shop/adhesives-and-sealants/gaskets-and-jointing/5980-quick-gasket-black-40ml/p/LOC7255751K?utm_campaign=pla-Adhesives+%26+Sealants+-+&utm_source=google&utm_medium=shopping-pla&utm_keyword=LOC7255751K&istCompanyId=6aa6787b-063e-4414-802d-129f235df603&istItemId=aqrxxmaar&istBid=tztx&gclid=CjwKCAjw3f3NBRBPEiwAiiHxGDiXLuJ0CqCMzHPPDcnUaTGM8OCtLAUbhresOsxC4ma0Y63goAQRRBoCSw8QAvD_BwE

I've got some of that from when I did the oil sump. Have you used it for the camshaft carrier on a gti fsi engine?

I think I'll give this stuff a go. If it don't work or leaks in the future then I'll get the VW stuff. If I have to do it again it's just a little extra work and not the end of the world and should't take me that long.

Used it on few MKIVs to do injector harness replacement, never had any come backs.

[lukemk5gti]

What about the high temp loctite liquid gasket we all used for our engine sumps when doing the pickup pipe?

That not the same?

[pudding]

I wouldn't be using silicon on the cam cradle personally.  I know it seems a p1ss take but anaerobic flange sealants aren't cheap anyway, it's not just VW bum raping us for the sheer hell of it.

As I said, the Wurth stuff is good, and Permatex do good Anaerobic flange sealants too, if you can find any in this silly little backwater country.

The engine won't suddenly go into meltdown from using the wrong stuff, but like reusing stretch bolts and turning the boost up.......you've pulled the pin from a grenade.  Who knows when it'll let go, but it will.