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Offline Bikerz

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Cluster Dead. Cranks, then instantly cuts out
« on: October 27, 2017, 06:38:47 pm »
Mrs Mk5 BKC (1.9 PD 105) was running fine. Come to it after work and turn key and dash doesnt light up but stero comes on. Car cranks and starts then cuts out (like the imboliser type cut).
I will take VCDS to it tomorrow and check fuses and earths (Need to check the 109 relay too). Any advice on anything else? Anyway to check ignition switch without removing removing wheel and changing it?

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Re: Cluster Dead. Cranks, then instantly cuts out
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2017, 08:53:40 pm »
Got to car this morning and it drives fine!
After this found fuse F25 which is 25a blown, which is for "Multifunction control module 1" Apparently. Whatever that is?
Any idea what else to check?

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Saturday,28,October,2017,10:35:28:32772
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 17.8.0.1 (x64)
Data version: 20170721 DS276.2
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ5W187508   License Plate: SJ GOLF 28.10
Mileage: 139710km-86811mi   Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 7D

VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ5W187508   Mileage: 139710km-86811miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
7D-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 03G-906-016-BKC.clb
   Part No SW: 03G 906 016 CB    HW: 028 101 190 0
   Component: R4 1,9L EDC 0000SG  6176 
   Revision: 12345678    Serial number: VWZ7Z0E1409633
   Coding: 0000071
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 65CACA61ACE1C26E19-8030

3 Faults Found:
18058 - Powertrain Data Bus
            P1650 - 000 - Missing Message from Instrument Cluster - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Torque: 64.0 Nm
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Voltage: 12.39 V
                    Bin. Bits: 00000100
                    Torque: 0.0 Nm
                    Torque: 110.0 Nm

17978 - Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer
            P1570 - 000 -  - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Torque: 0.0 Nm
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Voltage: 12.54 V
                    Bin. Bits: 00000100
                    Bin. Bits: 11000000
                    (no units): 0.0

18058 - Powertrain Data Bus
            P1650 - 000 - Missing Message from Instrument Cluster - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Torque: 64.0 Nm
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Voltage: 12.39 V
                    Bin. Bits: 00000100
                    Torque: 0.0 Nm
                    Torque: 110.0 Nm

Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 379 K
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0104 
   Coding: 0021121
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 3A70491D75DF9D9684-806E

1 Fault Found:
00474 - Control Module for Immobilizer
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 820 047 EF
   Component: Climatic PQ35   084 0404 
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 6CDCBF454F0BF32646-8038

1 Fault Found:
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
            008 - Implausible Signal

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-23-M.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 937 049 M    HW: 1K0 937 049 M*
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H34 0803 
   Revision: 00H34000    Serial number: 00000001346702
   Coding: 00890F0600041800001400001400000000087B075C
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 3972561170D9968E8D-806C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K2 955 119 B  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer VW350  012  0401 
   Coding: 00065493
   Shop #: WSC 00000 

1 Fault Found:
00834 - Signal for Activation of Heated Rear Window
            009 - Open or Short to Ground

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 C    HW: 1K0 909 605 C
   Component: 08 AIRBAG VW8   013 2100 
   Revision: 02013000    Serial number: 0033HD0410VT 
   Coding: 0012344
   Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200
   VCID: 2C5C7F458F8B332606-8078

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME08534132/

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME0862133D8

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HSME05614635/

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HSME0610567B4

1 Fault Found:
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent - MIL ON

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 E    HW: 1K0 953 549 E
   Component: Lenksäulenmodul 521 0050 
   Coding: 0000002
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 346C672557BB6BE65E-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 920 951 G
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 0716 
   Coding: 0003403
   Shop #: WSC 80093 222 69422
   VCID: 2D5A7241B4913A2E11-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 E    HW: 1K0 907 951
   Component: Gateway         H09 0110 
   Revision: 09          Serial number: 2700104C1506DC
   Coding: 3D0F0B40070003
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 295286518079260EFD-807C

3 Faults Found:
01305 - Databus for Infotainment
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 174
                    Mileage: 101447 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 16:03:59

01304 - Radio
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 174
                    Mileage: 101449 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 11:19:20

00381 - Databus Instrument Cluster
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 18
                    Reset counter: 214
                    Time Indication: 15


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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No: 1K0 920 951 G
   Component: IMMO            VDD 0716 
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2D5A7241B4913A2E11-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN1.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 701 E
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet 09 0120 
   Coding: 0000052
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 30646B35A3A357C63A-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V2.clb
   Part No: 1K2 909 144 H
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.2       1502 
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 31626E31A8A95ECE35-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MIN.clb
   Part No: 1K0 959 433 BL
   Component: 01 KSG              0562 
   Coding: 80C802087F2D8404085B018010
   Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
   VCID: 7BFE8C193A65649EDF-802E

   Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     

   Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     

   Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN1.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 702 E
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet 09 0168 
   Coding: 0000052
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 31626E31A8A95ECE35-8064

1 Fault Found:
00933 - Electric Window Motor; Passenger Side (V148)
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation - Intermittent

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Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached

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Address 7D: Aux. Heat        Labels: 1K0-963-235.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 963 235 E    HW: 1K0 963 235 E
   Component: PTC-Element         0404 
   Revision: 00800000    Serial number:               
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2D5A7241B4913A2E11-8078

No fault code found.

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Re: Cluster Dead. Cranks, then instantly cuts out
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2017, 09:11:35 pm »
I would try another remote if you've got one as they do fail.
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Re: Cluster Dead. Cranks, then instantly cuts out
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2017, 09:29:47 pm »
Both remotes do same thing
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Re: Cluster Dead. Cranks, then instantly cuts out
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2017, 09:40:17 pm »
you have an issue with power getting to the cluster

there are 2 power feeds to the cluster

a permanent and switched live
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