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My electronics are dying *Help*
« on: January 18, 2018, 08:43:48 pm »
Well my car isn’t happy I have major electronics failure. I’ll try and summarise

Sunday, noticed the drivers door wasn’t always being recognised as being open and sometimes being opened whilst driving.
Tuesday, battery flat
Wednesday, charged battery
Today,
Radio keeps cycling the startup, not actually activating
Drivers door will only activate its own window / folding mirror
No display of car (doors open etc) in the MFD
Cannot seem to connect to vcds 09 cecm, day ensure all doors are unlocked (they are)
Cannot connect to 46cecm via vcds, but can through mfd

Any ideas  :laugh: currently considering a lighter  :thinking:


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Re: My electronics are dying *Help*
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2018, 08:48:23 pm »
Thursday,18,January,2018,19:43:41:35823
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
VCDS Version: 17.8.1.0
Data version: 20171130 DS276.6
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ5W238836   License Plate:


Chassis Type: 1K-VW35 (7N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 37 42 44 46 52 55 56 62 72 75
          77

VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ5W238836   Mileage: 151370km-94056miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: Malfunction 0010
37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
55-Headlight Range -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: Malfunction 0010
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: Malfunction 0010
75-Telematics -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: Sporadic communication error 1000
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine        Labels:. 06F-907-115-AXX.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 115 A    HW: 1K0 907 115 A
   Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI G00 0070 
   Revision: --H01---    Serial number: VWZ7Z0E1978103
   Coding: 040300031C070160
   Shop #: WSC 00608 210 83368
   VCID: 244DC306E7501066D5-8070

1 Fault Found:
005634 - Power Supply Terminal 30
               P1602 - 002 - Voltage too Low - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: -40.0°C
                    Temperature: -40.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 0.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 0.000 V

Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
   Part No SW: 02E 300 042 M    HW: 02E 927 770 AD
   Component: GSG DSG         041 0824 
   Revision: 04004010    Serial number: 00000504050422
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 1D3BF6E2C43A21AE9A-8048

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 379 K
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0104 
   Coding: 0004738
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 3A711D7E75D476969F-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 5K0     HW: 5K0 907 044 B
   Component: ClimatroniH15 0709 
   Serial number: 000
   Coding: 0000000002
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatr A01006
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 30653F566BA8BCC621-8064

No ASAM data for: "EV_Climatr" (VW35)
4 Faults Found:
9472882 - ROD - Unknown Error Code
          - 00 [009]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 66
                    Mileage: 151152 km
                    Date: 2041.00.10
                    Time: 16:38:42

13701456 - ROD - Unknown Error Code
          - 00 [009]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 37
                    Reset counter: 78
                    Mileage: 151233 km
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 06:26:12

13701376 - ROD - Unknown Error Code
          - 00 [000]
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

0000 - End of output
          - 00 [000]
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 3C0-937-049-30-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C8 937 049 E    HW: 3C8 937 049 E
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H54 2602 
   Coding: F78E8F0600041800430F00000F00000080197B075C00000C000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
   VCID: 336F305A52BE87DE5C-8066

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K2 955 119 B  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer VW350  012  0401 
   Coding: 00065493
   Shop #: WSC 06402 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 M  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AF.CLB
   Component: RegenLichtSens 005  0605 
   Coding: 00480286
   Shop #: WSC 06402 

No Faults Found
  or DTCs not supported by controller
  or a communication error occurred

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 N    HW: 1K0 909 605 N
   Component: 08 AIRBAG VW8   015 2100 
   Revision: 03015000    Serial number: 0038ED0BKC0   
   Coding: 0012344
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 3777044A46C66BFE60-8062

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME5C35075DL

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME0A00707A6

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HSME06524840$

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HSME067E472BJ

2 Faults Found:
01221 - Crash Sensor Side Airbag; Driver Side (G179)
            010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent - MIL ON
01221 - Crash Sensor Side Airbag; Driver Side (G179)
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent - MIL ON

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 953 549 G
   Component: Lenksäulenmodul 521 0050 
   Coding: 0012142
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 3669094E41CC92F67B-FFFE

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
   Component: Lenkradmodul    007 0050


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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K6 920 974     HW: 1K6 920 974
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 2416 
   Revision: V0002000    Serial number: VWZ7Z0E1978103
   Coding: 0004403
   Shop #: WSC 00152 210 91233
   VCID: 71E3FA526822F5CE6E-8024

2 Faults Found:
00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 116
                    Mileage: 151232 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 05:54:02

00532 - Supply Voltage B+
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 116
                    Mileage: 151232 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 05:55:00


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 C    HW: 1K0 907 951
   Component: J533  Gateway H37 0614 
   Revision:   H37       Serial number: 250511F1000702
   Coding: 350003
   Shop #: WSC 00152 210 91233
   VCID: 30653F5663A8BCC621-8064

2 Faults Found:
01331 - Door Control Module; Driver Side (J386)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 20
                    Reset counter: 77
                    Mileage: 151359 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 15:37:18

01303 - Telephone Transceiver (R36)
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Reset counter: 118
                    Mileage: 151361 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 15:52:28


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 1K6 920 974     HW: 1K6 920 974
   Component: IMMO            VDD 2416 
   Revision: V0002000    Serial number: VWZ7Z0E1978103
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 71E3FA526822F5CE6E-8024

1 Fault Found:
00003 - Control Module
            014 - Defective
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101110
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 113793 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:20:28


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 37: Navigation        Labels: None
   VCID: 55ABAEC2BC8AB9EE92-FFFE

No Faults Found
  or DTCs not supported by controller
  or a communication error occurred

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 42: Door Elect, Driver
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V2.clb
   Part No: 1K2 909 144 K
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.5   D06 1701 
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 346D334657B080E645-8060

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv.
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MAX1.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 702 G
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet 09 0150 
   Coding: 0000118
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 336F305A52BE87DE5C-8066

4 Faults Found:
01812 - Supply Voltage for Door Controller; Pass. Side (J387)
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
00470 - Company Comfort Databus in Single Wire
            011 - Open Circuit
00121 - Outside Warning Light/Door exit Light Passenger Side
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
00132 - Outside Door Handle Illumination/mirror Light Passenger Side
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 1T0-907-357.lbl
   Part No: 1T0 907 357
   Component: Dynamische LWR      0002 
   Coding: 0000003
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 74EDF3461730C0E685-8020

1 Fault Found:
01539 - Headlights Not Adjusted
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio        Labels: None
   VCID: 55ABAEC2BC8AB9EE92-FFFE

No Faults Found
  or DTCs not supported by controller
  or a communication error occurred

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN1.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 703 C
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet 06 0217 
   Coding: 0000016
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 30653F56A3A8BCC621-8064

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 959 703 C
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet 06 0217

No Faults Found
  or DTCs not supported by controller
  or a communication error occurred

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: None
   VCID: 55ABAEC2BC8AB9EE92-FFFE

No Faults Found
  or DTCs not supported by controller
  or a communication error occurred

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 75: Telematics
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 77: Telephone
Cannot be reached

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 04:30)--------------------------

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Re: My electronics are dying *Help*
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2018, 09:07:47 pm »
Bloody hell mate
Not funny but what the actual fish

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Re: My electronics are dying *Help*
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2018, 09:13:22 pm »
Ha I know had it for 5 years and now everything is going wrong  :laugh:

Think it’s trying to tell me it’s time to move on. Thought it was a simple common door lock issue but thing have deteriated since

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Re: My electronics are dying *Help*
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2018, 09:42:58 pm »
Have you tried swapping out the door control modules?

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Re: My electronics are dying *Help*
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2018, 10:11:28 pm »
No haven the swapped anything yet. Have a new latch / switch on route so trying that first. Do have an old module so could try that also.

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Re: My electronics are dying *Help*
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2018, 10:21:55 pm »
First I'd get a new battery on it with that many faults.

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Re: My electronics are dying *Help*
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2018, 10:39:00 am »
Just to update / keep a record.

Car started ok this morning after standing for 12hrs (would from 4hrs yesterday)

Some of the faults above ie immobiliser and havc are due to highline and mk6 panel upgrade

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Re: My electronics are dying *Help*
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2018, 08:52:26 pm »
Ok so today have tried to tackle the door issue.

So the drivers do is constantly saying the door is open regardless of actual state.
Tonight I have swapped over both the door latch and control module, neither have made a difference.

I have checked the loom between the door and car and it’s perfect
The controls for the drivers door will do that window and mirror, but not any other windows or mirrors or the fuel flap.
Have removed the loom connection and the fuse although it removes the power it still shows the door as open in the mfd  :sad1:

Any ideas?
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Re: My electronics are dying *Help*
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2018, 11:06:55 am »
Reading over all your bits, your original post from vcds is saying you have intermittent comms with drivers door module, so you've checked wiring in the rubber and swapped the module etc,

Plug vcds in and see if it can talk to the drivers door module, with the door open and closed so it's stretching the wires in the rubber.

Have you done any work or added/changed anything in last couple of days?

One other thing can you hear the fuel pump priming when you open door after overnight, trouble starting?
« Last Edit: January 22, 2018, 11:13:26 am by SI-R32 »
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Re: My electronics are dying *Help*
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2018, 12:53:55 pm »
Thanks @SI-R32

Yeah so it basically deteriorated, noticed that it was not always knowing the true state of the open sh*t door, but now always sees it as open regardless or module or anything. The loom was discovered damaged 3 years ago and was repaired and still all looks good.

Have tried the vcds and it won’t connect to either module that I install. If I try to look at the cecm it won’t let me say ensure all doors are unlocked.

Nothing has been changed, I was going to do a battery test a few weeks ago but had no fuses for the multi meter so I didn’t complete that so the battery was disconnected but that’s it.

Fuel pump doesn’t appear to be priming audibly but haven’t had any struggle starting. 

It has been suggested that it’s an ECU issue, could this be a possibility? Where does the door module report back too? I’m in a situation of not being able to use the car as obviously it constantly thinks the door is open so is going flat constantly.

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Re: My electronics are dying *Help*
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2018, 02:43:58 pm »
if vcds won't talk to the door module but will talk to everything else then that's telling me its the wiring to the module, basically the door module is parralled up with other modules on the convenience can that then goes to the gateway (can bus module 19)

so you really need to check you have 12v on big red and small red cables to make sure it has a supply to the module, then my next port of call would be the door wiring. also check to see if you can talk to passenger side door. fyi the copper could be broken inside the insulation or a soldered joint (if any) could be dry etc etc, its kinda all pointing to the door wiring/module.

as you can talk to the CECM then that would suggest convenience can is ok from VCDS lead through gateway to the CECM which as I said is on the same wires as the front doors.
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Re: My electronics are dying *Help*
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2018, 09:00:30 pm »
 :notworthy: @SI-R32  :notworthy:

Fault in the door loom just before second grommet. Legend thanks for the help, would you know which looms are compatible ?

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Re: My electronics are dying *Help*
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2018, 11:40:46 am »
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Fault in the door loom just before second grommet. Legend thanks for the help, would you know which looms are compatible ?

To be fair as you'd have to remove the outta door skin to change the loom I would just expose all the cables and repair them again right back in the door that would probably see the car out as loom could be 40 quid plus and you may not be an exact match.

You could quite easily get some extra flexible cable from ebay etc. not that hard to do depending on skills?
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Re: My electronics are dying *Help*
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2018, 12:21:20 pm »
Ha yeah the problem is not sure my skills are up to it. I have ordered a replacement used loom from eBay probably not ideal but worth a try. A new looms for the dealers is £115  :laugh: