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Offline steve D

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How much power is REALLY useable?
« on: February 08, 2010, 06:26:24 pm »
Ok so how much power can you really use in a golf?

Im getting the revo stage 1 done this week and was already thinking about stage 2 with the supporting mods but can you really use all the extra power on a fwd car?

My Ed30 is standard and even now i find the wheels spinning up when coming out of a corner or off a roundabout so it got me thinking, is having all the extra power and torque worth the money??

I suppose if your into pub talk then fair enough!! but in the real world is stage 1 more drivable than stage 2 etc.

I get the feeling you would cover ground better with stage 1 over stage 2 as you wont be fighting to get the power down all the time!

Just a shame the ed30's didnt come with 4wd :driver:


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Re: How much power is REALLY useable?
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2010, 06:28:55 pm »
i have 330bhp, and wouldn't want less, but getting it to the ground takes some mods to do well  :smiley:

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Re: How much power is REALLY useable?
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2010, 06:31:44 pm »
diff and good tyres
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Re: How much power is REALLY useable?
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2010, 06:37:23 pm »
Yeah i suppose a trick diff and some R888's will help no end..

I take it most people running stage 2 have spend money on other areas like the diff etc then!!

sounds costly... :laugh:
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Re: How much power is REALLY useable?
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2010, 06:42:05 pm »
in the dry my stage 2 gti is fine but wet/damp roads is a different ball game :driver:

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Re: How much power is REALLY useable?
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2010, 07:26:31 pm »
even with good tyres i can light my wheels up with no issues at all. its all about how progressive you are wth the throttle and how good your tyres are.  im happily hunting for more power with no issues about it at the moment. once i get where i want to be i will have the diff fitted.

LSD will make the biggest difference in the corners, but id wager a set of TT lower control arms would have just as good a grip (or as near as dammit) but for a third of the price. 

if your car is set up well powerr isnt a problem

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Re: How much power is REALLY useable?
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2010, 08:26:19 pm »
right mods it will be fine  :happy2:
more is more, isnt that what they say  :signLOL:

dont forget that any stg2/+ car Ive been in/driven, has a smoother curve typically that stg1 only.
this tends to help the low torque hit that often lights the tyres up.

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Re: How much power is REALLY useable?
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2010, 08:39:52 pm »
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Re: How much power is REALLY useable?
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2010, 08:40:39 pm »
acellerating out of corners is something you adapt to on how its set up. mine is lowered and i find it a hell of a lot easier putting the power down now than i did before. lower center or gravity helps a lot. anti roll bars and diffs help too. i find my tyres quiet good, maybe because im so used to them but that is a very important factor if your putting a lot of power on the road. if i really want to spinn the wheels its easy, but as said its about being progressive with the throttle. i drive a stage 2 ED30 by the way and love it.  :happy2:
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Re: How much power is REALLY useable?
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2010, 10:36:47 pm »
how do your arb's help get the power down ?
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Re: How much power is REALLY useable?
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2010, 10:38:28 pm »
less body roll in corners means your wheel geometry will stay at its optimum settings for longer and the load will be split between the wheel s better as well, therefore more grip less wheel spin.

ARBs i by far my favourite mod

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Re: How much power is REALLY useable?
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2010, 10:56:42 pm »
yeh i get that but they do nothing in a straight line . or did i mis read nb07 post



which i think i did - my bad !
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Re: How much power is REALLY useable?
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2010, 09:10:44 am »
i dont have arbs gillm, but less body roll as sy said helps traction out of bends, thats what the OP was asking as he said he has traction problems out of corners etc. in a straight line it wont help much, you just need good tyres and progressive throttle for that. a good map also helps, if the power comes in to sharp then your pooped :happy2:
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Re: How much power is REALLY useable?
« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2010, 01:07:33 pm »
Ok lads cheers for the replies, i suppose as said alot of it is down to driving style and coming from Evos where you can get the power down mid corner and not have any problems the golf might take abit of getting used to as you just can't drive it as hard..

 :driver:

Will have a look into getting some ARB's plus will no doubt get some R888 for the summer months.

Not really fuss about going for a LSD at this point but maybe have a look if i go stage 2.
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Re: How much power is REALLY useable?
« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2010, 01:11:11 pm »
get TT lower control arms fitted instead and get that extra half degree of negative camber. you'll have a huge amount more grip in the corner then