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VW Racing Big Brake kit product review
DaveB@Vagbremtechnic:
--- Quote from: tony_danza on February 22, 2012, 04:04:37 pm ---Whoah.
I do NOT like where this thread has gone.
Everyone knows Matt has a different version of the kit to most of the people who have voiced concerns over its make up. I do not think it is fair to kick his arse for his opinion of his brakes. It's like complaining my apple isn't as crunchy as his, it may have come from the same orchard, but it ain't the same apple.
Matt knows VWR, so what? I couldn't give a rat's ass if he was given a hundred pounds to put those brakes on his car, because I know for a fact he isn't disingenuous.
There's a lot of people taking kick-backs and cheap/free stuff to be test mules or for their gear to be seen on 'halo' cars, it's gone on since the dawn of time. I was pretty much given a WALK kit, does anyone doubt my integrity or reviews of it? Speak now, of forever hold your hypocrisy.
Shame on some of you. If you've got a problem, see VWR/Caparo - don't moan at Matt.
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Mike
If you in your review you stated that your walk kit would enable you to hover 6 Inches of the ground and self park into a gap two thirds the length of your car, I would take you to task about it too not for my sake but for the other people who actually need the kit to do what is being said it will achieve.
lots said, lots of comments made about how good they are on track to promote sales, comments now found false, apologies made on the other thread,rudeness received, don't care, as you say it happens move on.
I've said it before they're not bad brakes, if Matt likes them good for Matt
Can't see how wanting a more open candid declaration is hypocritical, and I've no problem at all thanks very much unlike some people who have bought these brakes at an inflated price expecting them to work well on track
tony_danza:
I've just read all of this again, I'm not going to start looking around for other threads, so excuse me if I miss something.
As far as I read it in summary:
Matt likes his brakes as does Jabbalad (who races for a living) and the latter having used his car on many track days and Ring trips without issue.
TEFF who had some problems with V2 of the kit, VWR fixed it.
SteveP and a few others have had issues with V2 of the kit. That is pending.
Matt said "mine aren't like that, acknowledged that there is a problem and advised them go to VWR and get it sorted"
As far as I'm concerned, Matt's and Jabbalad's opinions and review are valid. They are not however a review of V2 of the kit and whilst I believe this is clear reading the thread, prehaps a header on the first post is needed because of my suggestion thus.
This thread needs to be suspended, VWR given chance to address the problems with V2 and then owners of V2 should then contribute an amendment to be added to the first page. If it is such that these customers are not happy after attempts have been made to re-engineer the kit, then the review will reflect that.
VWR has to be given a chance to sort this, mistakes are made and you should judge people on how they deal with it. You've made them too I guess? It's only fair. Until then, let's just wait and see. :happy2:
DaveB@Vagbremtechnic:
Mike
We've sort of drifted away from the point, I personally don't care, my main issue is the continued endorsement of a product that in my own personal opinion has issues over a period of time and is over priced, that's MY take on reading the thread.
Last time I looked I can say what the hell I like as can Matt
As I said perhaps previously on this thread I played the man not the ball and I apologised for it.
That said theres the other issue of pseudo sponsored endorsement and it's worthy of discussion IMHO even if nothing changes we've all had the chat
Your summary seems good apart from the fact that VWR are aware of the problem and advocated turning the caliper upside down already. If that's the fix you're referring to then we all know where we are.
tony_danza:
Fair enough chap, I wasn't actually making reference to you in any of my points BTW - so don't think I'm having a pop.
Forums, their member's cars and the tuning scene is all to some degree bent. You just have to know who can be relied upon to still give an honest opinion from those with a hand up their arse who can't. I don't believe Matt is the latter, it just seems he's somehow got the kit everyone else should have.
Pricing, well that's their call. I think it's too steep for the sum of its parts and pedigree, especially as I paid £1700 for my Alcon kit back then.
DaveB@Vagbremtechnic:
And just to come back to you after your 5.37 edit Mike, yes mistakes are made by everybody it's what you do when things don't go to plan that's a measure of an organisation and an individual.
I'm struggling to think of a time when things didn't go to plan and I didn't stick with things until they were resolved or the money arrived back in the buyers account.
I've also done/supplied a lot of stuff for free Mike and if people have been daft enough to listen to my free advice then more fool them.
Also it's fair to say my rates/kits are far from priced commercially, if you charge top dollar then the stuff better deliver, out of the box, first time every time
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