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Re: VW Racing Big Brake kit product review
« Reply #120 on: March 16, 2010, 02:25:10 pm »
You should have said, I'd have come over - how long you there for? I must bust the office....

will text u next time  :happy2:

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Re: VW Racing Big Brake kit product review
« Reply #121 on: March 16, 2010, 07:10:11 pm »
I think he's talking more about the spigot not sticking out enough to mount the wheel on, rather than the bell/hub.

Where are you testing?

this is exactly what i was talking about. I just got home, i'll make a shower and go out to test them. First impression is that i have a vibration in the wheel when i push the brake pedal. I just made 10 km. This night i will do about 200km. I hope that after some serious braking everything will be ok

More impressions later.. :happy2:

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Re: VW Racing Big Brake kit product review
« Reply #122 on: March 16, 2010, 11:58:32 pm »
First impressions after 100 km: A lot of problems:

1. Excepting the fact that the spigot is not sticking out enough to mount the wheel on and i made a custom piece on CNC machine, like an extension of the spigot.

2. At speeds beyond 50 km/h if i press the brake pedal the car starts to vibrate very powerfull, it is like the disc was deformed. The steering wheel vibrates very strong, the car vibrates.

3. When i steer left at maximum something is rubbing at my left wheel. When i steer right at maximum there is no rubbing. I sounds like metal on metal  :scared:

4. The brake pedal feedback is very low, i have to push it very well for the brake to actionate

What i think that is the reasons are:


1. The vibrations could be from the custom piece. In the brake kit it was included a set of bolts longer than the normal ones. Could it be that there are strong enough to hold the wheel without the custom piece to be fitted? Could the bolts be forged?

2.  A fabrication fault of the brake discs

I attached some pictures of the spigot with the OEM disc mounted, a picture of the spigot with the VWR disc, 2 picture with the custom made piece
« Last Edit: March 17, 2010, 09:26:37 am by TEFF »

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Re: VW Racing Big Brake kit product review
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Re: VW Racing Big Brake kit product review
« Reply #124 on: March 17, 2010, 08:25:22 am »
TEFF, with all those problems you list, your best bet is to go back to VWR and see what they can do. They'll want to solve these problems and are always very helpful in my experience.


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Re: VW Racing Big Brake kit product review
« Reply #125 on: March 17, 2010, 08:33:00 am »
been running mine for a while and they have been fantastic and i can drive them crazy hard but as Robin has said give Mat at vwr a call as thats not good as i think the spigot ring you have fitted will be making the car vibrate so get it off and bolt the wheels on without the ring and see if that helps.

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Re: VW Racing Big Brake kit product review
« Reply #126 on: March 17, 2010, 08:41:51 am »
i have sent what u said to Mat for u  :happy2:

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Re: VW Racing Big Brake kit product review
« Reply #127 on: March 17, 2010, 09:30:02 am »
TEFF, with all those problems you list, your best bet is to go back to VWR and see what they can do. They'll want to solve these problems and are always very helpful in my experience.

I'm from Romania and i cannot go all the way to UK  :grin:. I know they are helpful, that's why i don't want to give up so easy with these brakes

i have sent what u said to Mat for u  :happy2:

The only person with which i talked all the way from the beginning from VWR is Sam Roach. I don't know a guy called Mat :sad1:

Thanks for the help guys

been running mine for a while and they have been fantastic and i can drive them crazy hard but as Robin has said give Mat at vwr a call as thats not good as i think the spigot ring you have fitted will be making the car vibrate so get it off and bolt the wheels on without the ring and see if that helps.


I would not like to try this method until i'm 100% sure that it  is safe. Until i get this sorted out i will not drive outside the city
« Last Edit: March 17, 2010, 09:37:38 am by TEFF »

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Re: VW Racing Big Brake kit product review
« Reply #128 on: March 17, 2010, 09:39:17 am »
Teff, the bolts will be strong enough - try removing your spigot addition and just be very careful to torque the wheels (with them off the ground for the first bit) a little at a time, picking an opposite bolt each time.

So 12 o'clock bolt. then the 5 o'clock, then 10, then 2 then 7 - it'll naturally pull the wheel central.

Rubbing noise might just be the screw in the arch liner, as you've increase the track width of the car.
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Re: VW Racing Big Brake kit product review
« Reply #129 on: March 17, 2010, 09:47:52 am »
As Mike says above and if its Sam your dealing with then thats fine but if u speak to Sam and i send the info to Mat we have both people covered  :smiley:

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Re: VW Racing Big Brake kit product review
« Reply #130 on: March 17, 2010, 10:01:39 am »
Teff, the bolts will be strong enough - try removing your spigot addition and just be very careful to torque the wheels (with them off the ground for the first bit) a little at a time, picking an opposite bolt each time.

So 12 o'clock bolt. then the 5 o'clock, then 10, then 2 then 7 - it'll naturally pull the wheel central.

Rubbing noise might just be the screw in the arch liner, as you've increase the track width of the car.

I will do so tomorrow because today i don't have the time to go to the service and remove the spigot addition. Please, can you tell me exactly on this draq which is the screw in the arch liner?


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Re: VW Racing Big Brake kit product review
« Reply #131 on: March 17, 2010, 10:04:19 am »
its the plastic in side the wheel arch on the car nothing to do with the brakes

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Re: VW Racing Big Brake kit product review
« Reply #132 on: March 17, 2010, 10:15:12 am »



the bells that are on my car is the old bells ie first prototype ones the can take a spigot ring

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Re: VW Racing Big Brake kit product review
« Reply #133 on: March 17, 2010, 10:17:46 am »
Oh i see, but if it was that, why there is no metal rubbing in the right side when i steer right?  :sad1:
As i see in the picture you have enough spigot clearance and you can sustain your wheel on it and then torque the bolts

I just thought to a solution: if it's possible for them to cut the so called built-in spacer on the disc bell so that it doesnt covers the spigot so much?
« Last Edit: March 17, 2010, 10:19:20 am by TEFF »

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Re: VW Racing Big Brake kit product review
« Reply #134 on: March 17, 2010, 10:22:45 am »
it would be better to have a mm taken off the bell to get the room u need

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