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BKD TDI Engine Not Starting?
« on: July 25, 2018, 09:59:18 pm »
Hello all, i’ve been looking on the internet for a couple of days now trying to find help but cant find anything. I have a Golf 2006/55 Plate 2.0 GT TDI with BKD engine. It’s been starting and driving fine. I took the car into my unit to do some work (front discs & pads, rear Caliper, New Headlights. Took the car out after doing the work and was fine. I came to start the car later on, it will not start. Cranks fine, but not firing up. I scanned it for codes and only fault was steering angle sensor. Can’t clear code without engine starting. I have checked fuses, relays, primed fuel pump all to no avail. Can any one help? I will upload a full file log via vcds tomorrow as my brother has it and is away this evening. I’m at a loss with this so any help or suggestions would be perfect and hugely appreciated.

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Re: BKD TDI Engine Not Starting?
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2018, 12:40:21 pm »
VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ6W114247   License Plate:


Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72 7D

VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ6W114247   Mileage: 197580km-122770miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
7D-Aux. Heat -- Status: Malfunction 0010
 
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 03G-906-016-BKD.clb
   Part No SW: 03G 906 016 KC    HW: 028 101 190 3
   Component: R4 2,0L EDC 0000SG  9971 
   Revision: 12345678    Serial number: VWZ7Z0E3128117
   Coding: 0000072
   Shop #: WSC 00878 210 85434
   VCID: 6ED3EBDF79590934C5-803A

2 Faults Found:
17949 - Fuel Pump Relay (J17)
            P1541 - 000 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Torque: 102.0 Nm
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Voltage: 8.97 V
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000
                    Bin. Bits:        0
                    (no units): 0.0

18009 - Relay for Supply Voltage Terminal 30 (J317)
            P1601 - 000 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Torque: -98.0 Nm
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Voltage: 9.58 V
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000
                    Bin. Bits:        0
                    (no units): 0.0

Readiness: 0 0 1 1 1

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AA    HW: 1K0 907 379 AA
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0102 
   Revision: 00H13001   
   Coding: 0023170
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 71E9F0A3686716CCD8-8024

2 Faults Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 820 047 DP
   Component: Climatic PQ35   090 0505 
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 75E1C4B31C0F3AEC04-8020

2 Faults Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
00229 - Refrigerant Pressure
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 E    HW: 3C0 937 049 E
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H37 1002 
   Revision: 00H37000    Serial number: 00000002286129
   Coding: E5890F2700041800001400001400000000087F075C
   Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
   VCID: 2B5522CB8ACB3C1CA2-807E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K2 955 119 C  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer VW350  013  0402 
   Coding: 00065493
   Shop #: WSC 00000

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 T  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AF.CLB
   Component: RegenLichtSens 011  1110 
   Coding: 00208933
   Shop #: WSC 00000

2 Faults Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00110100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 14
                    Mileage: 197587 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON
                    Voltage: 11.85 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

00059 - Terminal 30 for Interior Lighting
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101100
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 14
                    Mileage: 197587 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        OFF
                    Voltage: 12.50 V
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF


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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 R    HW: 1K0 909 605 R
   Component: 38 AIRBAG VW8   018 2200 
   Revision: 02018000    Serial number: 0038MD05280I 
   Coding: 0013112
   Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200
   VCID: 3B75128B7AABAC9C32-806E

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME0D4F6267O

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME0D4C2307D

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6352QSME072E2525E

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6362QSME074F057FV

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AF    HW: 1K0 953 549 AF
   Component: Lenksäulenmodul 634 0070 
   Coding: 0000012
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 76E3C3BF010931F40D-8022

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 920 962 G
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 4312 
   Coding: 0003403
   Shop #: WSC 00864 067 57207
   VCID: 2F6D36DBBED3403C8E-807A

1 Fault Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 F    HW: 1K0 907 951
   Component: Gateway         H10 0120 
   Revision:   H10       Serial number: 2800105C1700F4
   Coding: 3D3F0B40070003
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 2A5B27CF8531251459-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No: 1K0 920 962 G
   Component: IMMO            VDD 4312 
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2F6D36DBBED3403C8E-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 701 K
   Component: Tuer-SG         024 2388 
   Coding: 0000692
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 366303BF418971F4CD-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V2.clb
   Part No: 1K2 909 144 K
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.5   D06 1701 
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 346739B757F563E4F3-8060

3 Faults Found:
02546 - Steering Limit Stop
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
             Freeze Frame:
                    Mileage: 7560 km
                    Temperature: 23.0°C
                    Voltage: 12.70 V
                    Voltage: 12.60 V

00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Mileage: 7560 km
                    Temperature: 23.0°C
                    Voltage: 8.50 V
                    Voltage: 9.60 V

01314 - Engine Control Module
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Mileage: 7560 km
                    Temperature: 23.0°C
                    Voltage: 11.30 V
                    Voltage: 11.10 V


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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MIN.clb
   Part No: 1K0 959 433 AK
   Component:    KSG              0401 
   Coding: 01C802087F2D8405485FC69010CC
   Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
   VCID: 79F9C88330175E8C60-802C

   Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder No Answer   

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 907 719 C
   Component: Neigungssensor  005 0003

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K0 951 177 A
   Component: Innenraumueberw.005 0202

1 Fault Found:
01134 - Alarm Horn (H12)
            004 - No Signal/Communication

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MAX2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 702 L
   Component: Tuer-SG         024 2808 
   Coding: 0000692
   Shop #: WSC 00706 210 60575
   VCID: 387F0D874B9D8784DF-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 035 186 P
   Component: Radio BVX       016 0023 
   Coding: 0040400
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 33653AAB52FB64DCEA-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 703 F
   Component: Tuer-SG         021 2429 
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 33653AAB52FB64DCEA-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 704 F
   Component: Tuer-SG         021 2429 
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 346739B757F563E4F3-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 7D: Aux. Heat        Labels: 1K0-963-235.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 963 235 E    HW: 1K0 963 235 E
   Component: PTC-Element         0404 
   Revision: 00800000    Serial number:             
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2D512CD3B4DF322CBC-8078

1 Fault Found:
00361 - Heater Element for Auxiliary Heater (Z35)
            014 - Defective

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Re: BKD TDI Engine Not Starting?
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2018, 09:40:04 pm »
Try to charge your battery?
Seems like it has to low voltage to get everything working.

Supply voltage error all the way down
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Re: BKD TDI Engine Not Starting?
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2018, 09:14:47 am »
Battery was changed, drained it trying to start it. Have put another new one in but still no luck!

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Re: BKD TDI Engine Not Starting?
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2018, 02:37:35 pm »

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Re: BKD TDI Engine Not Starting?
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2018, 06:09:16 pm »
Surely if it was ignition switch it wouldn’t crank though?

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Re: BKD TDI Engine Not Starting?
« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2018, 06:10:55 pm »
Does anyone think it could be wiring loom?
Read a thread on another forum of a similar problem, put that thought in my head

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Re: BKD TDI Engine Not Starting?
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2018, 09:08:55 am »
the first thing i would do is change the fuel filter
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Re: BKD TDI Engine Not Starting?
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2018, 07:46:54 pm »
Car has just been serviced, fuel, oil, air filters, coolant flush, timing belt kit & tensioners etc, and fresh oil, was £600+ at garage.

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Re: BKD TDI Engine Not Starting?
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2018, 11:51:59 am »
check to see if timing belt has snapped or come loose - as i had my timing belt done and the forgot to tighten up the tensioner
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Re: BKD TDI Engine Not Starting?
« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2018, 08:12:16 am »
Surely if it was ignition switch it wouldn’t crank though?

Not necessarily, never looked at VW ignition but years ago they had more wires than just 'start motor'
one connection on the ignition made fuel pump active.  so you could be surely wrong.

Could also be fuel pump failed in its own right.  pretty common too.
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Re: BKD TDI Engine Not Starting?
« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2018, 07:19:55 pm »
Fuel pump is fine, primes fine, pumps fuel to engine when trying to start, have tested. I will check ignition switch.

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Re: BKD TDI Engine Not Starting?
« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2018, 09:22:48 pm »
Fuel pump is fine, primes fine, pumps fuel to engine when trying to start, have tested. I will check ignition switch.
Try a bit easy start sprayed into the air filter housing and see if it try's to cough and splutter and run a little bit before the switch job it quicker and cheaper.