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anyone experienced this?
« on: December 14, 2018, 09:56:33 am »
Hi All, went out to the GTI this morning (temp outside was -1.5 degrees) started the engine.. and as always it fired up instantly! Then all of a sudden as the idle dropped to normal the engine cut out! started it again.. done the same again, it done this a fair few times one after another. engine would run for a around 6 seconds then just cut. while this was going on I tried giving it a bit of throttle... and every time I tried.. the throttle would do nothing, as if someone had unplugged the pedal! so give up and took the kids to school in the touran!

come back and tried again.. same thing! I tried numerous times! I had a similar issue last month with a cold start but it didn't cut out.. drove ok but throttle response was terrible and laggy (almost like putting it in 6th gear and booting it and 25mph) like that kind of laggy.

anyhow, so I tried starting the car with the throttle 10% down... car started and I had throttle control but once id let go of the throttle the revs would fall to idle then it'd cut out again! As revs was falling... the throttle wouldnt work once id let go of it. I started it with the throttle in again and held the revs around 2k for a minute or so to try warm it up. but nope... still cut out once id let go. started engine again and cut out again!

I gave up, came in and had a coffee, went back out after.. car started.. idled where it should then ran... tried throttle, all worked fine. let go of throttle and car returned to Idle!!! so yeah.. like the cars FINE again! im like.. wtf.

so i have no idea with this one.. but im wondering if I got a dodgy sensor that doesn't like the freeze.. as it almost seemed like the car had 10 minutes to defrost after I had engine running for few mins.

anyone else experienced this? I have no fault codes either.

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Re: anyone experienced this?
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2018, 10:12:30 am »
Try unplugging the MAF next time it happens and see if it improves matters.   With that many cut outs and poor response, I reckon there must be something in the fault codes!  Not all of them throw the check engine light unfortunately.


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« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2018, 11:35:40 am »
Hi pudding, I did actually unplug the MAF this morning when it run and car cut out?

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« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2018, 12:00:25 pm »
OK, it's not MAF related then.  I think your engine is being stubborn.  Maybe time to crack open the VW tool kit (duct tape, hammer and silicon)  :grin:


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« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2018, 12:13:48 pm »
Scanned for codes? Be surprised if there's not one there for either the throttle pedal or the throttle body
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Re: anyone experienced this?
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2018, 01:19:43 pm »
OK, it's not MAF related then.  I think your engine is being stubborn.  Maybe time to crack open the VW tool kit (duct tape, hammer and silicon)  :grin:

Oh you forgot the wd40!!!!!  :wink:
Oh try the the switch under the accelerator.......had to replace mine on an audi  :sad1:
« Last Edit: December 14, 2018, 01:21:45 pm by amanda »

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« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2018, 07:34:49 pm »
Haha... the vw tool kit!! Wd40 fixes everything!
I have only scanned with a cheap thing. I am getting vcds after xmas! Maybe I need to continue all my fault finding once I’ve got the proper tool! I have access to it but it’s long... mate through work when it’s free type thing. Luckily I have 2 cars... the golfs my toy. But want it perfect before getting it mapped etc.

I can’t see the issue being anything to do with the throttle pedal. It’s almost like the car went.. NAH I’m -1 you ain’t using me!! Coz as I said when I started engine with the throttle down before actually starting the throttle would work!
Definitely something not liking the cold! Something freezing! Cars been fine all day otherwise that first blip this morning.
Will come back to this when I have VCDS end of January but thanks for the first thoughts!

If anyone comes accros this and has an answer please shout out. Thanks, shaun.



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« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2018, 09:32:03 am »
Ok, so car done the same thing the other morning. (Only freezing mornings) Scanned it with my cheap scanner and got this code...
P0686
After putting it into google I found this on Ross tech:
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/17070/P0686/001670

My mate said I need to swap out a relay near the drivers pedals, and to also check wiring to and from ECU.

Anyone else come across this code?

And do you think this could be the issue to my cold starts and shutting everything down?  Cheers.


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