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joesgti:

--- Quote from: RedRobin on November 03, 2008, 03:29:28 pm ---
--- Quote from: joesgti on November 03, 2008, 02:23:33 pm ---well i cant recomend the s3 cooler enough!!! turbo spools up ALOT quicker and holds boost alot better higher up in the revrange!

its one of the only mods that i could feel the difference when driving!  :jumpmove:

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....I'm not saying that the S3 i/c isn't an excellent mod, but only that JKM's logs (no, they haven't removed the stock i/c for tests - TT please note) are not indicating any issues with my stock i/c.

To feel the difference on road rather than track, Joe, I reckon you must be driving your car like you stole her - But I suggest that without the experience of driving one myself.

Whereas JKM would of course like the extra business of installing a S3 i/c, all their logging etc on my car suggests that unless I was doing trackdays, my stock i/c is doing its job, and though a great mod, it's not one I need at present.

:happy2:

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trust me, you would know the difference. the spool up was alot slower on my car and a slight lag, now no lag whatsoever. have you got any graphs that you could post of your car on the RR? i can then compare this to some of my older ones!  :smiley:

RedRobin:

--- Quote from: Teutonic_Tamer on November 03, 2008, 01:48:08 pm ---
--- Quote from: RedRobin on November 03, 2008, 01:25:58 pm ---
--- Quote from: joesgti on November 03, 2008, 12:17:51 pm ---if it is the turbo id be keen to know what caused it!!
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....But if the problem is solved without any obvious fault being visible in the turbo, how much would you be keen to pay to send it to a specialist to find out?
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But surely, buy having it looked at by a specialist turbo engineer, they are very highly likely to be able to professionally report what damaged it in the first place.  If you know what caused the damage, you can then take steps to prevent the same happening again.
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....As both you and Joe are saying, I can see the wisdom in your words. I will investigate the costs of so doing but I expect that you appreciate that even with deep pockets, there's a level of cost which makes it not worthwhile. However, I can also see how valuable such info would also be for others, including yourselves!

First, we have to actually see what we find with the turbo on Friday.


--- Quote from: Teutonic_Tamer on November 03, 2008, 01:48:08 pm ---In my very humble, and very independent opinion, I would strongly recommend upgrading the stock intercooler.  With all your mods, the standard cooler is just placing un-necessary restrictions and loadings on the turbo.  Why do you think that the S3 cooler is so highly rated?

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....Again, obviously first rate advice. I may very well do the S3 i/c mod but not yet.

:happy2:

joesgti:
what about the graphs  :smiley:

RedRobin:

--- Quote from: joesgti on November 03, 2008, 03:34:37 pm ---trust me, you would know the difference. the spool up was alot slower on my car and a slight lag, now no lag whatsoever. have you got any graphs that you could post of your car on the RR? i can then compare this to some of my older ones!  :smiley:

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....Surely you should not have experienced any noticeable lag before the S3 i/c was installed. Butt dyno? Placebo?

No time to sort out graphs, pics of, uploading etc right now - I'll post an overview when this issue is solved - I have other priorities right now.

RedRobin:

--- Quote from: neg on November 03, 2008, 01:55:08 pm ---KO4 would need relocation of DV + new discharge pipe but theoretically it should work as long as you limit the boost, but then you wouldn't be running K04 specific software so it wont try and hold the boost for that long anyway.

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....Surely fitting a K04 without the rest of the package would result in turbo lag. It's swings vs roundabouts (assuming you know the expression). Need I remind anyone that the whole package costs £4K.

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