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Re: Down on power....
« Reply #105 on: November 05, 2008, 07:05:04 pm »
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I've also got the KoniFSD+Eibachs+ARB's. Unfortunately my KoniFSD's have failed, but they are an early version, so don't get worried. VW Racing are tailor making a KW setup to replace them.


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Re: Down on power....
« Reply #106 on: November 07, 2008, 08:04:43 am »
Goodluck with today Robin, heres hoping you have no boost issues ! i should get my golf back from the dealers today too  :drinking:  :happy2:

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Re: Down on power....
« Reply #107 on: November 07, 2008, 09:22:11 am »
yea, good luck robin! hopefully youl be making full power again soon  :driver:


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Re: Down on power....
« Reply #108 on: November 07, 2008, 11:10:34 pm »
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Thanks for the good wishes, guys :happy2:

JKM removed and inspected my turbo and, as suspected, the casing around the 'Penny Valve' Wastegate has a small crack. When I was chatting with VW Racing about my problem yesterday, they said it was probably Wastegate area or Penny Valve as JKM had exhaustively tested other possibilities.

I'll post pics at the weekend - Am off to APS tomorrow.

My original turbo is a Rev C, whereas my 'new' one is Rev G but there's no obviously visible difference!

Instead of trying so hard to meet boost requests that we were seeing >90% effort in the data logs, we are now seeing as little as 65% and mostly in the 70's - So now there's plenty headroom (tolerance).

JKM also set my Revo to Boost 6 instead of 7. It'll run 7 fine but we decided 6 just as an extra margin of safety.

So initially she making just over 240 bhp with a very healthy torque curve but we need to let the whole ECU learn the new setup and settle before another dyno session.

The dyno has been invaluable as a tool for assessment and diagnosis and then checking everything afterwards. Jim did some road testing with the laptop as well.

JKM are a great team - Jim is the mechanical expert and Keith the electronics expert and they specialise in VAG cars.

The probable cause of the crack is heat - Turbo's are subjected to extremely high temperatures - And a weakness in the metal casing. At first it's easy to regret that it didn't happen while still under warranty but I doubt very much if VW would have accepted my issue with my other modifications being present. There have been cases of metal failure in the K03 turbo on standard 2.0T FSI engines, so it's not a problem exclusive to remapped engines.

It's great to have that extra power back!
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Re: Down on power....
« Reply #109 on: November 07, 2008, 11:13:51 pm »
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Thanks for the good wishes, guys :happy2:

JKM removed and inspected my turbo and, as suspected, the casing around the 'Penny Valve' Wastegate has a small crack. When I was chatting with VW Racing about my problem yesterday, they said it was probably Wastegate area or Penny Valve as JKM had exhaustively tested other possibilities.

Hi Robin  :happy2:

As daft as this sounds that's good news isn't it? At least you now know whats involved and how much it will cost.......

P.S. I bet you enjoyed the drive today, the weather was  8)

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Re: Down on power....
« Reply #110 on: November 07, 2008, 11:38:36 pm »
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Thanks for the good wishes, guys :happy2:

JKM removed and inspected my turbo and, as suspected, the casing around the 'Penny Valve' Wastegate has a small crack. When I was chatting with VW Racing about my problem yesterday, they said it was probably Wastegate area or Penny Valve as JKM had exhaustively tested other possibilities.

I'll post pics at the weekend - Am off to APS tomorrow.

My original turbo is a Rev C, whereas my 'new' one is Rev G but there's no obviously visible difference!

Instead of trying so hard to meet boost requests that we were seeing >90% effort in the data logs, we are now seeing as little as 65% and mostly in the 70's - So now there's plenty headroom (tolerance).

JKM also set my Revo to Boost 6 instead of 7. It'll run 7 fine but we decided 6 just as an extra margin of safety.

So initially she making just over 240 bhp with a very healthy torque curve but we need to let the whole ECU learn the new setup and settle before another dyno session.

The dyno has been invaluable as a tool for assessment and diagnosis and then checking everything afterwards. Jim did some road testing with the laptop as well.

JKM are a great team - Jim is the mechanical expert and Keith the electronics expert and they specialise in VAG cars.

The probable cause of the crack is heat - Turbo's are subjected to extremely high temperatures - And a weakness in the metal casing. At first it's easy to regret that it didn't happen while still under warranty but I doubt very much if VW would have accepted my issue with my other modifications being present. There have been cases of metal failure in the K03 turbo on standard 2.0T FSI engines, so it's not a problem exclusive to remapped engines.

It's great to have that extra power back!

Do you think this could happen to our k04 brothers as well RR?
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Re: Down on power....
« Reply #111 on: November 07, 2008, 11:40:00 pm »
As daft as this sounds that's good news isn't it? At least you now know whats involved and how much it will cost.......

P.S. I bet you enjoyed the drive today, the weather was  8)

....Not as daft as some may think - It was excellent news as far as we were all concerned because the problem was found and now the new turbo is on, it's solved.

I drove up to the Guildford area to see some friends and then back down the A3 and then home - About 120 miles on the new turbo. Torrential rain on the A3 in the dark but the GTI handles all that sort of thing without any effort and my Quaife is brilliant in the wet.

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Re: Down on power....
« Reply #112 on: November 07, 2008, 11:50:41 pm »
Do you think this could happen to our k04 brothers as well RR?

....I regret to say definitely yes - It COULD happen but of course might not. It's more likely to happen on a remapped engine because more boost is requested and so more effort and hence heat is generated. But just as stock DV's have failed, so can anything standard.


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Re: Down on power....
« Reply #113 on: November 08, 2008, 12:04:56 am »
Really pleased to hear this is sorted Robin, keep enjoying  :happy2:

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Re: Down on power....
« Reply #114 on: November 08, 2008, 12:09:39 am »
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Thanks, Nathan :happy2:

It's great to have the support of so many fellow enthusiasts here and I hope my experiences on this problem may help others - neg perhaps.

I have to say that I couldn't have been in better hands than JKM - Their approach and methods were spot-on!


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Re: Down on power....
« Reply #115 on: November 08, 2008, 12:50:22 am »


^ My new K03 turbo RevG - Thanks to JKM and new member sibart :happy2:


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Re: Down on power....
« Reply #116 on: November 08, 2008, 01:11:08 am »
Hi all,
I'm the doner of the turbo for Red's motor (hope all goes well). The K04 debate has raised some interesting opinions on Briskoda.net for sure.
My personal opinion is without doubt AMAZING. The drive you get i feel is superb, bearing in mind I do at least 1000 miles a week.
I'll be keeping my eyes open on the forum for any future meets to try and make a presence so some of you guys can take a test drive.
Hope you dont mind me crashing on here in my VRs.
And again, hope it all goes well Red.

Fancy meeting you here   :innocent: :happy2:
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Re: Down on power....
« Reply #117 on: November 08, 2008, 01:38:42 am »
Good to hear you're all sorted now and sounds like you are one very happy bunny.

Once again JKM pulled out the stops for you and came up trumps :happy2:
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Re: Down on power....
« Reply #118 on: November 08, 2008, 03:13:50 am »
Congrats Robin , glad its running back to good health  :drinking: Nothing more depressing when somethings wrong and you can't rectify it.

Must have had a grin on the way home !

Also thanks for letting us know what went wrong, as that really helps the community if someone else has a similar problem they'll be able to sort it out much easier !  :happy2:

Ps: i had my car sorted, nothing wrong just a faulty steering wheel and reset adaptation, feels like it did before !




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Re: Down on power....
« Reply #119 on: November 08, 2008, 07:19:09 am »
Congrats Robin , glad its running back to good health  :drinking: Nothing more depressing when somethings wrong and you can't rectify it.

Must have had a grin on the way home !

Also thanks for letting us know what went wrong, as that really helps the community if someone else has a similar problem they'll be able to sort it out much easier !  :happy2:

Ps: i had my car sorted, nothing wrong just a faulty steering wheel and reset adaptation, feels like it did before !

.... :happy2: Thanks, buddy.

That steering wheel fault is relatively common - I missed where you had posted about it, otherwise I would have posted.


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