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Sach clutch fitted but....
« on: February 22, 2010, 07:40:20 pm »
Ok so i've had a sach clutch kit fitted as my standard clutch was slipping after having REVO stage1 done, but i'm finding it hard to get it in gear (mainly 3rd to 4th) when driving balls out!

Its fine when just driving normal but when trying to change fast it just seems to very stiff and you just cant change gear that quick... but if you take your time it's fine.

Any ideas Lads?

Also can the clutch peddle be ajusted so that the bite is near the bottom of the peddle rather than the top like the OEM clutch.

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Re: Sach clutch fitted but....
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2010, 05:31:17 pm »
No ideas then Lads  :confused:

Will get some more miles done and hopfully its will loosen up a bit!
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Re: Sach clutch fitted but....
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2010, 05:35:22 pm »
im having mine (with a solid flywheel) fitted at vwr in 2 weeks time along with a diff so i will let you know
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Re: Sach clutch fitted but....
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2010, 10:26:19 pm »
No ideas then Lads  :confused:

Will get some more miles done and hopfully its will loosen up a bit!

You lot are a bit tight with your info.......drove this the other day.  3rd to 4th changing at 5500rpm = no problem.  At 6000rpm+ it will not go in, drops into neutral but will not pull back into 4th unless you pause, by which time RPM has dropped.  Obviously no good for the Pod or 30-130 days.
Loads of threads regarding Sachs clutches, surely someone has seen this!!!  Looking at possibley an uprated clutch myself so more info the better.  DSGers do not need to reply.

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Re: Sach clutch fitted but....
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2010, 10:59:06 pm »
Hey mate in the same boat my original luk clutch on the ed30 has started to slip when my giac map is on cars at 21k miles! looking to upgrade to a Sachs aswell! Did you change your flywheel? As I'm being told if its just started to slip and there is no juddering from the flywheel I should be ok! :confused:  I've switched my map off and the cars driving fine
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Re: Sach clutch fitted but....
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2010, 11:03:05 pm »
No ideas then Lads  :confused:

Will get some more miles done and hopfully its will loosen up a bit!

You lot are a bit tight with your info.......drove this the other day.  3rd to 4th changing at 5500rpm = no problem.  At 6000rpm+ it will not go in, drops into neutral but will not pull back into 4th unless you pause, by which time RPM has dropped.  Obviously no good for the Pod or 30-130 days.
Loads of threads regarding Sachs clutches, surely someone has seen this!!!  Looking at possibley an uprated clutch myself so more info the better.  DSGers do not need to reply.


Not in the right gang mate!! must be down to being a Newbie :laugh:
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Re: Sach clutch fitted but....
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2010, 11:10:11 pm »
Hey mate in the same boat my original luk clutch on the ed30 has started to slip when my giac map is on cars at 21k miles! looking to upgrade to a Sachs aswell! Did you change your flywheel? As I'm being told if its just started to slip and there is no juddering from the flywheel I should be ok! :confused:  I've switched my map off and the cars driving fine

Yes mate i had the job lot done,had a SMF fitted though.

infact when it was removed the flywheel looked more of a mess than the clutch plates :confused:

I put mine back on the standard map aswell while i waited for the sachs clutch to be delivered but after a few days it was slipping on that.

If i was you i'd change the flywheel at the same time to just to be on the safe side otherwise you might be kicking yourself and its gonna cost you more in the long run.
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Re: Sach clutch fitted but....
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2010, 10:07:12 am »
sounds like you pressing on the clutch isnt actuating the mechanism correctly.

If you try driving up to 5500rpm then lift but not touch the clutch pedal its easy for the lever to shift into neutral under no load.

Does the SMF replicate the distances etc of the OE clutch?
You may be (due to some incorrect or incompatible component)at the limit of your clutch adjustment.

I would also be looking at checking your clutch master cylinder fluid level, maybe bleed it, and maybe trying pumping the pedal a few times,then going 'ballls out' soon after to see if the change up 'works' as a result...

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Re: Sach clutch fitted but....
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2010, 03:33:43 pm »
Yes it's the same the OE clutch, the cable has been ajusted but hasnt made any difference at all..

Will check the fluid though.

It looks like im not the only one thats having this problem with the sachs kit...

http://www.audi-sport.net/vb/showthread.php?68291-SMFW-Sachs-Clutch-Slow-change-at-high-revs&highlight=sachs

http://www.vagoc.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?t=3071&highlight=sachs

It really makes me wonder about the aftermarket parts that are on the market for these cars,so far i've had nothing but problems.
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Re: Sach clutch fitted but....
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2010, 03:52:37 pm »
come to think of it, Im sure a user reported on here that the clutch was wrong for the car  once Sachs got involved.

found it

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,11046.0.html
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Re: Sach clutch fitted but....
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2010, 05:40:36 pm »
come to think of it, Im sure a user reported on here that the clutch was wrong for the car  once Sachs got involved.

found it

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,11046.0.html
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Cheers John makes some interesting reading, will have to check up on whats exactly been fitted in mine!
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Re: Sach clutch fitted but....
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2010, 06:23:53 pm »
never had a prob with my Sachs clutch changing gears at over 6k rpm!  :smiley:

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Re: Sach clutch fitted but....
« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2010, 06:28:07 pm »
never had a prob with my Sachs clutch changing gears at over 6k rpm!  :smiley:

Did you have a SMF fitted aswell and what year is your car please?
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Re: Sach clutch fitted but....
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2010, 08:18:21 pm »
never had a prob with my Sachs clutch changing gears at over 6k rpm!  :smiley:

Did you have a SMF fitted aswell and what year is your car please?

nope kept the OEM flywheel in there as it was fine. 06 GTI so it probably had the poo LURPAK clutch in there (slipped a goodun shortly after Revo S1)

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Re: Sach clutch fitted but....
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2010, 10:35:21 pm »
never had a prob with my Sachs clutch changing gears at over 6k rpm!  :smiley:

Did you have a SMF fitted aswell and what year is your car please?

Steve I think it wouldn't be a bad idea if you PM'd Toby (on ASN, VAGOC) and have a word with him. You can compare problems and see if he can help/give advice on what to do next. As it needs to be right, especially with the money it cost..