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P0420
« on: June 20, 2019, 09:12:52 am »
Just had this code for the last few days, I’ve cleared it and it comes back after a long drive.
Car fills down on power and timing is out.
I was thinking failed catalyst

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Re: P0420
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2019, 04:25:15 pm »
Catalyst System Efficiency Below Threshold

Your Golf has at least two oxygen sensors, one before and after the catalytic converter. Among the many jobs that oxygen sensors have is they have to measure the emissions levels coming in and out of the converter.


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Re: P0420
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2019, 04:26:47 pm »
Top Causes of P0420 in the Volkswagen Golf

There are many things that can cause the P0420 trouble code in your Golf. Here are the most common ones.

Oxygen Sensor– The P0420 codes is thrown when the oxygen sensors on both sides of the exhaust have very similar readings. When the oxygen sensor is bad, it can cause a false reading and trigger the code. If the engine does not exhibit any of the decreased performance associated with a bad catalytic converter, it very well may be the oxygen sensor (if you haven’t noticed the performance loss yet).
Catalytic Converter– A catalytic converter is responsible for scrubbing out as much pollution as possible from the Golf’s exhaust. Over time, they can become clogged. Although, modern catalytic converters are supposed to last the life of most vehicles, it could be there is some underlying problem if it has clogged.
O2 Sensor Wiring– Over time, the oxygen sensor wiring can go bad. It is especially volatile since it is right next to the hot exhaust at all times. The downstream oxygen sensor wiring is also volatile since it is so far from the ECM (more distance to travel = more area to fail).
Golf Timing– If your Golf is misfiring or the exhaust timing is off, this can affect the gasses that are actually going to the O2 sensors enough to cause the P0420 code to register.
Exhaust Leak– If there’s a noticeable exhaust leak coming from the vehicle it can change what the O2 sensors register enough to throw the P0420 code.
Engine Temp Sensor– If the computer doesn’t know what the engine temp is it’ll keep the fuel mixture rich. When the fuel mixture is rich, the exhaust the O2 sensors see will be out of range and it could throw the sensor.


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Re: P0420
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2019, 07:20:28 pm »
Thanks mate, originally had misfire issue which was faulty injector.
I’ve had all 4 replaced and carbon cleaned but this hasn’t solved the p0420 code.
Car deffo fills slow and is only making about 180bhp.

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Re: P0420
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2019, 09:17:37 pm »
Maybe not related to the code but have you checked the DV to see if it’s latest revision. Before I had my car mapped to STG2 I had the DV changed and it was day and night in the change of performance


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Re: P0420
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2019, 09:50:16 pm »
If the car has had dodgy injectors causing a misfire it can cause the cat to fail hence the P0420 code as above the readings from the post and pre cat lambdas will show a switching voltage on both not just the pre cat sensor. The post cat sensor 'job' is to check the catalyst's efficiency.

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Re: P0420
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2019, 10:56:24 pm »
Diverter valve was replaced only 2 months ago.
How do I check catalyst efficiency.

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Re: P0420
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2019, 12:57:08 am »
Ideally need to check the pre and post cat sensor voltages with VCDS or similar

the pre cat sensor once warm in closed loop will show a switched voltage  (something like alternating between 0.1 - 0.9 volts)

If the post cat sensor copies the front switching voltage, that is bad, hence the P0420 (failed cat) , it should show a constant voltage with no fluctuation.
« Last Edit: June 22, 2019, 01:16:38 am by GVK »

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Re: P0420
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2019, 09:43:32 pm »
So after everything it seems my misfires and lack of power was knackered cat,
Replaced cat and everything is fine again.

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Re: P0420
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2019, 09:58:03 pm »
Glad you sorted it bud


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Re: P0420
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2019, 10:06:19 pm »
Thanks for all the help just pleased it’s back to normal. :congrats: