Make a donation

Author Topic: Servicing Modified Cars  (Read 4212 times)

Offline DanoGTI

  • Always Involved
  • ****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 11
  • -Receive: 3
  • Posts: 293
    • DA Productions
Re: Servicing Modified Cars
« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2010, 07:28:02 am »
Hadn't the chap quite obviously modded the car - I mean "excessively"?

Maybe the dealership had taken exception to the chap's attitude - not saying that was the case, but *something* must have kicked off for them to play that particular hand.......

regardless of how it happened though, it DID happen. At great expense to put it all right.



DA Productions

The fine art of diplomacy is telling somebody to "fcuk off" in such a way that they actually look forward to the journey....

Offline jmspear

  • Always Involved
  • ****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 6
  • -Receive: 11
  • Posts: 240
Re: Servicing Modified Cars
« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2010, 05:31:36 pm »
This is a seperate issue to servicing and warranty work. Servicing no issue that I see or have experienced. Warranty work, if necessary reverse mods before it goes in, but only if Mod could be argued to have caused the warranty failure.

If the car is leased or on a HP style finance package, including persnal lease contract, you DO NOT OWN IT, the finance company does, therefore you can't mod it as you are modding someone else car.

Basically same as hiring a car from Hertz for a week and modding that :laugh:

This is probably why the Seat guy got hammered. If the finance company have to repossses because you stop paying finance in their eyes it will be worth a lot less because it has been modded (will lose big value at auction) and will require remedial work to revert to standard. They will therefore have you if they find out, I suspect that the garage don't care who owns it when they service it, but they could be instructed by a lease company to alert them to mods if would alter the servicing cost, or if the lease company / finance house was VW finance??? But again I think unlikely. So if you own the car Mod away, if you don't, don't be surprised if the people who do own the car find out you have modded it then take you to the cleaners for modding their car.

Offline Poverty

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 36
  • -Receive: 21
  • Posts: 1543
Re: Servicing Modified Cars
« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2010, 05:45:05 pm »
Hadn't the chap quite obviously modded the car - I mean "excessively"?

Maybe the dealership had taken exception to the chap's attitude - not saying that was the case, but *something* must have kicked off for them to play that particular hand.......

regardless of how it happened though, it DID happen. At great expense to put it all right.



It kicked off because they couldnt fix it and so took the easy route out  :grin:

Dealers have been known to write off warranties for not fitting genuine VAG bulbs, or this one guy who constantly had issues with his engine cover coming off and breaking the sensor head on the HPFP.

Offline vRS Carl

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 282
  • -Receive: 240
  • Posts: 3088
  • I'm the F.A.G (Forum Apple Guru)
Re: Servicing Modified Cars
« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2010, 05:48:22 pm »
This is a seperate issue to servicing and warranty work. Servicing no issue that I see or have experienced. Warranty work, if necessary reverse mods before it goes in, but only if Mod could be argued to have caused the warranty failure.

If the car is leased or on a HP style finance package, including persnal lease contract, you DO NOT OWN IT, the finance company does, therefore you can't mod it as you are modding someone else car.

Basically same as hiring a car from Hertz for a week and modding that :laugh:

This is probably why the Seat guy got hammered. If the finance company have to repossses because you stop paying finance in their eyes it will be worth a lot less because it has been modded (will lose big value at auction) and will require remedial work to revert to standard. They will therefore have you if they find out, I suspect that the garage don't care who owns it when they service it, but they could be instructed by a lease company to alert them to mods if would alter the servicing cost, or if the lease company / finance house was VW finance??? But again I think unlikely. So if you own the car Mod away, if you don't, don't be surprised if the people who do own the car find out you have modded it then take you to the cleaners for modding their car.

That all depends on how much of the finance you have paid.

If you have paid more than 66% of the car off then actually even if you do stop paying it the Finance company can not reposes the car without a court order as you now hold the majority share.

Few people are in a position to buy a brand new car for cash etc so majority of us will use finance or get a second hand car within budget.

The same could be said about modifying your house then. The bank effectively owns the house until your mortgage is paid off but it doesn't stop people decorating them or adding extensions.

So TECHNICALLY speaking and if your finance company wanted to be an arse then yes they could go spaz at you modding it. But as long as you keep up the repayments i doubt they care very much.

Carl :happy2:

Offline RedRobin

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 380
  • -Receive: 442
  • Posts: 16627
  • BIALI Motorsport's Chief Horn Blower
Re: Servicing Modified Cars
« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2010, 06:07:26 pm »
@ Carl:

That's the key to it: No real problems as long as you keep up the payments. Whatever the % paid off a Court Order wouldn't necessarily be difficult to obtain and if you want to contest the issue, unfortunately the leasing/finance company has much deeper pockets than you do. But that's just the worst case scenario. We just need to be aware and make our individual decisions accordingly.


On facebook: https://www.facebook.com/robin.procter.50

Throbbin' Red Mk5 GTI DSG with too many mods to list - Have Fun but Safe Journeys!

Offline RedRobin

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 380
  • -Receive: 442
  • Posts: 16627
  • BIALI Motorsport's Chief Horn Blower
Re: Servicing Modified Cars
« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2010, 06:12:10 pm »

If the car is leased or on a HP style finance package, including persnal lease contract, you DO NOT OWN IT, the finance company does, therefore you can't mod it as you are modding someone else car.

Basically same as hiring a car from Hertz for a week and modding that :laugh:


....Back in the day I hired a big Ford Grenada for a week from Hertz Heathrow. Drove up to Worcestershire to spend a weekend with friends.. Hit black ice.. Drove into a hedge to avoid a tree.. Went down a steep bank and rolled.. I just hung there in my safety belt laughing. The car was somewhat 'modified' by this event.


On facebook: https://www.facebook.com/robin.procter.50

Throbbin' Red Mk5 GTI DSG with too many mods to list - Have Fun but Safe Journeys!

Offline berttie21

  • Taking part
  • ***
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 3
  • -Receive: 0
  • Posts: 26
Re: Servicing Modified Cars
« Reply #21 on: March 04, 2010, 07:10:59 pm »
All,

Many thanks for your thoughts, I have decided to go ahead with the TBE tomorrow but my concerns over any VW finanace giving me issues has lead me to get a loan and buy myself out of the finance, this has actually worked up saving me £3.5K as the VW finanace and Ballon payment worked out at 14%!! whisls the banks will loan at 8%.

Cheers

Ben

Offline stealthwolf

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 306
  • -Receive: 291
  • Posts: 7836
  • ED30 No.1412
    • Email
Re: Servicing Modified Cars
« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2010, 07:37:03 pm »
^^^ This is why I'm about to do the same. Then once the insurance expires, I can MOD!!!

The GTI isn't just a machine. It's very much a living, breathing thing.

Offline RedRobin

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 380
  • -Receive: 442
  • Posts: 16627
  • BIALI Motorsport's Chief Horn Blower
Re: Servicing Modified Cars
« Reply #23 on: March 05, 2010, 08:39:31 am »

^^^ This is why I'm about to do the same. Then once the insurance expires, I can MOD!!!


.... :party:  This is going to be interesting!  :party:


On facebook: https://www.facebook.com/robin.procter.50

Throbbin' Red Mk5 GTI DSG with too many mods to list - Have Fun but Safe Journeys!