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Re: Black magic Mk5 GTI
« Reply #105 on: February 09, 2012, 08:35:32 am »
Hard to say. Of course it WILL give some downforce, at least you're +-0 currently.
Keep in mind you run wider wheels as well and compare the stock Locus  :wink: RS to the Raeder RS above.
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Re: Black magic Mk5 GTI
« Reply #106 on: February 09, 2012, 09:10:12 pm »
Yes, the wheels are about 245 in real size as compared to 225 for OEM. It's wider than OEM but not as large as on that Focus (265-275). The car is also lowered as compared to OEM and today I've measured the OEM spoiler also :

Corner (near wheel) >

VwRacing > 13cm
OEM > 9.5cm

Under the fog grill >

VwRacing > 10.5cm
OEm > 7.5cm

Middle section >

VwRacing > 7.5cm
OEM > 1.5cm

PS : Note that my OEM spoiler didn't have the under-lip on it anymore so the real difference on the middle isn't that big. We can safely say this air-dam is 3-4cm lower than OEM all around !
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Re: Black magic Mk5 GTI
« Reply #107 on: February 14, 2012, 08:52:55 pm »
Finally pulled up some outsid movies from my Drift HD170 camera. The music was added because because I had to supress the wind noise. Enjoy !



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Re: Black magic Mk5 GTI
« Reply #108 on: March 02, 2012, 09:23:23 am »
Yesterday I was at the service from 9am to 2am :)  I succeeded installing the wing, longer under-engine shield, new water radiator (the old one had a serious crack in it and may have been the cause of my overheating problems on track), temp sensor, brake pads and wrapped the ABS and brake lines in heat protective material. During the radiator change I've also noticed the throttle pipe was broken so I've ordered a new one (this might have been the cause for my unstable idle in the pst 2 years). Some conclusions for the Kerscher wings:


- they are 2.5Kg lighter than OEm ones
- they do fit very well
- the addition to the arch liners imply cutting a part of the OEm liners(6-9cm on most of their length). The new additions will be about 5cm higher than OEm wich should help with rub
- With the OEM wings, the 235/35/19 (on 8.5'' rim) tire was 9mm out of the wing, with the new wings it's 8mm inside them. Conclusion > the new wings are 9+8 = 17mm wider than OEM (not really 30mm as they say)

- As an addition to the 17mm is the fact that, the addition to the liners is 5cm higher than OEM wich is equivalent to another 5mm added to the 17 or the possibility of lowering the car another 2-3cm

- The rubber that surrounds the windshield meets the fender for a few cms. Because of the thicker fiberglass of the new wings, the small guide found on the rubber needs to be cut, otherwise the wing won't align to the fender (you can see circles on the pics)

- On the wing there's a guide that holds the bumper to it. If this one isn't installed perfectly, the bumper may not align well to the fender (this might have happened to rex on one side)



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Re: Black magic Mk5 GTI
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Re: Black magic Mk5 GTI
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Re: Black magic Mk5 GTI
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Re: Black magic Mk5 GTI
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Re: Black magic Mk5 GTI
« Reply #113 on: March 02, 2012, 01:00:38 pm »
Excellent shots Fuscobal, and are looking forward to see if the heat refective tape makes a difference, you have put it on due to you removing the dust shields right?  :smiley:

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Re: Black magic Mk5 GTI
« Reply #114 on: March 02, 2012, 01:42:42 pm »
Well done and still beautiful brakes !!

Do you have a pic with the car in total?
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Re: Black magic Mk5 GTI
« Reply #115 on: March 02, 2012, 09:46:31 pm »
The heat shields don't fit with the Ap brakes so I had to protect the lines from heat somehow. Bruce, no pic yet for 2 reasons :

1) I'm waiting to install the air-dam also
2) The car was dirty as hell :)

I will make some nice pics in 7-10 days when I'll install the air-dam and other bits (waiting for the new throttle pipe now). I've ordered a new OEM one because it's cheap but maybe I'll go for a BSH or Neuspeed in the future as the OEm plastic one may be failing because of the high pressure that it sees as compared to an OEM GTI !
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Re: Black magic Mk5 GTI
« Reply #116 on: March 03, 2012, 09:48:06 am »
I can asure you that BSH throttle pipe holds up to 500+ hp :D

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Re: Black magic Mk5 GTI
« Reply #117 on: March 11, 2012, 04:05:47 pm »
Some pics made today with the new track wheels, Kerscher wings and VwR air-dam !





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Re: Black magic Mk5 GTI
« Reply #118 on: March 11, 2012, 04:14:15 pm »
I like it my friend! No so low as I would like but I know you have good reasons (I dropped the car 5-8mm today so I should be lower. We have to put them side by side at Hungaroring).
Sunny weather, ha? I changed setup from winter to summer and just after I finished a heavy snowfall came in : :grin:. So I got to test the summer tires in 1 inch of snow  :grin:. We might have problems with the summer setup next weekend if the weather is not warming up.

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Re: Black magic Mk5 GTI
« Reply #119 on: March 11, 2012, 04:19:30 pm »
Looks very good Fuscoball, i'll try and mimic the shots for some comparison between yours and my Seibon and TT hubs  :wink:

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