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Re: Intercoolers - Forge VS THS ??
« Reply #60 on: May 02, 2010, 04:42:59 pm »
This is something I had thought to add. The way I see it, no matter which one you go for, there will be compromises. I already have the S3 intercooler, but the car spends a lot of time trying to cool itself after a hard run.

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Re: Intercoolers - Forge VS THS ??
« Reply #61 on: May 02, 2010, 05:12:21 pm »
Might be worth noting on DSG cars, but there was a fella with a TTS dsg, which on hot days the car would drop into limp mode due to the fact of the twintercooler is a design which involves "stacking up" of coolers, which led to there being less airflow to the trnsmission and it subsequently over heating.

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Re: Intercoolers - Forge VS THS ??
« Reply #62 on: May 02, 2010, 05:52:37 pm »
Might be worth noting on DSG cars, but there was a fella with a TTS dsg, which on hot days the car would drop into limp mode due to the fact of the twintercooler is a design which involves "stacking up" of coolers, which led to there being less airflow to the trnsmission and it subsequently over heating.
This is something I am aware of, and one of the things putting me off this solution. By the time the air goes through the Forge, a/c, regular intercooler and in to the radiator, how much cold air actually gets there? On the flip side, you will get a pressure drop when adding a Twintercooler.

The THS and APR cores dont do this, but they are still sat behind the a/c core and in front of the radiator.

As I said, swings and roundabouts, but I know I need more cooling on mine.

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Re: Intercoolers - Forge VS THS ??
« Reply #63 on: May 02, 2010, 06:06:42 pm »
did you read this link
http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61193

from a guy who has had both s3 on its own and S3 with twintercooler.

it does seem that its only people without the twintercooler that go on about this pressure drop and lag, yet everyone who has had one or had logs done of it has said that there was nothing of the sort.

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Re: Intercoolers - Forge VS THS ??
« Reply #64 on: May 02, 2010, 06:25:54 pm »
^^^ Agreed, but for me from having run the THS on my ED30 (which I now really wish I hadn't sold as they do fit the Mk6) and really noticing the difference and from seeing the results I wouldn't hesitate is going for one of these again  :happy2:

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Re: Intercoolers - Forge VS THS ??
« Reply #65 on: May 02, 2010, 06:47:58 pm »
^^^ Agreed, but for me from having run the THS on my ED30 (which I now really wish I hadn't sold as they do fit the Mk6) and really noticing the difference and from seeing the results I wouldn't hesitate is going for one of these again  :happy2:


but you would also consider a twintercooler though for the MK6, wouldnt you steve, especially at that price?!  :innocent:

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Re: Intercoolers - Forge VS THS ??
« Reply #66 on: May 02, 2010, 06:49:40 pm »
The price is very good  :happy2:, but now I know the THS will fit I would probably go for that one again when it time for an IC  :smiley:

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Re: Intercoolers - Forge VS THS ??
« Reply #67 on: May 02, 2010, 06:54:31 pm »
fair enough stick with what you know i guess and the THS is proven to be good.   :happy2:
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Re: Intercoolers - Forge VS THS ??
« Reply #68 on: May 02, 2010, 07:04:05 pm »
Given the choice, definitely the THS for me, am really pleased with the one I have had on for the past 10 months. Makes a difference.  :happy2:

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Re: Intercoolers - Forge VS THS ??
« Reply #69 on: May 02, 2010, 08:06:26 pm »
it does seem that its only people without the twintercooler that go on about this pressure drop and lag, yet everyone who has had one or had logs done of it has said that there was nothing of the sort.

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Re: Intercoolers - Forge VS THS ??
« Reply #70 on: May 02, 2010, 09:01:19 pm »
it does seem that its only people without the twintercooler that go on about this pressure drop and lag, yet everyone who has had one or had logs done of it has said that there was nothing of the sort.

 :grin: :congrats: So so true..

btw i dont have one either :wink:

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Re: Intercoolers - Forge VS THS ??
« Reply #71 on: May 04, 2010, 09:48:34 am »
Might be worth noting on DSG cars, but there was a fella with a TTS dsg, which on hot days the car would drop into limp mode due to the fact of the twintercooler is a design which involves "stacking up" of coolers, which led to there being less airflow to the trnsmission and it subsequently over heating.
This is something I am aware of, and one of the things putting me off this solution. By the time the air goes through the Forge, a/c, regular intercooler and in to the radiator, how much cold air actually gets there? On the flip side, you will get a pressure drop when adding a Twintercooler.

The THS and APR cores dont do this, but they are still sat behind the a/c core and in front of the radiator.

As I said, swings and roundabouts, but I know I need more cooling on mine.

That is not how the Forge IC works...

Remember the Forge works in parallel to you existing cooler.  If it was in a series configuration what you say would be true.  In the parallel config the air gets split off with some going to the existing intercooler and the rest going through the forge.  If anything I would expect the air temps to be cooler with the Forge due to where it is located.  It does not have the AC and the Rad next to it heating things up.

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Re: Intercoolers - Forge VS THS ??
« Reply #72 on: May 04, 2010, 09:50:40 am »
did you read this link
http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61193

from a guy who has had both s3 on its own and S3 with twintercooler.

it does seem that its only people without the twintercooler that go on about this pressure drop and lag, yet everyone who has had one or had logs done of it has said that there was nothing of the sort.

Agree Sy, I think the fundemental thing that people forget with the Forge is that it works in parallel.  If it only has a 0.7 PSI pressure drop accross the core it will have less pressure drop and less lag compared to OEM.
« Last Edit: May 04, 2010, 09:56:42 am by KRL »

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Re: Intercoolers - Forge VS THS ??
« Reply #73 on: May 04, 2010, 10:25:03 am »

Remember the Forge works in parallel to you existing cooler.  If it was in a series configuration what you say would be true.  In the parallel config the air gets split off with some going to the existing intercooler and the rest going through the forge.


....So, it works in a kinda twin air pipe way. Hmm, hence the name TWINtercooler. Clever, that  :wink:

I wonder what would happen if this clever twin stuff was applied to a high-flow tubular air intake  :wink:


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Re: Intercoolers - Forge VS THS ??
« Reply #74 on: May 04, 2010, 10:27:59 am »
I wonder what would happen if this clever twin stuff was applied to a high-flow tubular air intake  :wink:

Now that would be a good idea!!  :jumping: :wink: