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MDI retrotfit questions
« on: March 17, 2010, 09:56:57 pm »
I've got a A rev RNS510 with updated firmware to B. Can I install the MDI and get it operating correctly (with coding), I see a lot of conflicting info saying that you can't run MDI on an A model even with upgraded FW!

Whats a good price to get one for (the glovebox type)? I see a lot on the bay for £140ish but without the ipod lead which is roughly another £20.

Whats the p/n and RRP for the kit, maybe I could get one from VW with 10% off?

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Re: MDI retrotfit questions
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2010, 12:10:55 am »
5N0057342 price is around £140 plus VAT from the dealer but requires a RNS B or higher, some sites are saying a firmware upgrade for a A will resolve the issue

VW are saying not compatible with the following;
1T0057680
1T0057680A
7L6057690
7L6057690A



The ipod/usb/mini usb leads are all extras

There is no coding unless you want to add 2E to the can gateway list for completeness

There is also 5N0057342A (£170 plus VAT) which appears to fit in the glovebox  with the included storage shelf but looks like the armrest version (complete with looms but no ipod/usb lead)

However it also says not compatible with

1T0057680
1T0057680A
7L6057690
7L6057690A




« Last Edit: March 18, 2010, 12:30:37 am by cameluk »

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Re: MDI retrotfit questions
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2010, 09:31:21 am »
I prefer the look of the non-shelf MDI as it takes up less space. So the 6 million dollar question is has anyone installed MDI into a FW updated A revision 510?

Also is the armest version supposed to have the same compatibility issues with the A version of the 510?
« Last Edit: March 18, 2010, 09:34:50 am by Rob GTI »
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Re: MDI retrotfit questions
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2010, 01:42:44 pm »
I know a member over at vwnavi who has fitted the armrest version to his A upgraded to firmware 1100 without issues, he didn't fit the unit to his armrest but into the cubby hole under the steering wheel with a hdd

http://vwnavi.com/showthread.php/showthread.php?s=4a3bd75482e9a229448645ce3a39e2a0&p=35032#poststop

Don't think the armrest version comes with the cable between the MDI and the RNS, Kufatec sell the cable loom
« Last Edit: March 18, 2010, 01:45:39 pm by cameluk »

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Re: MDI retrotfit questions
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2010, 09:48:15 pm »
Well thats good to know at least I can resort to that option if all else fails. Still I would like to to have the glove box version to save space.

Surely though the wiring must be the same on the armrest and glovebox versions with the only differences being the mounting point?
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Re: MDI retrotfit questions
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2010, 12:21:33 pm »
I thought you'd done yours Rob?

If I can do it, you can  :wink:
Just remember when retrofitting, to put some sort of soft cloth around all the plastic bits cause no matter how careful you are, you'll scratch something and I hope it's not your RNS-510 like it was for me  :sad1: :stupid:
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Re: MDI retrotfit questions
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2010, 12:43:23 pm »
I thought you'd done yours Rob?

If I can do it, you can  :wink:
Just remember when retrofitting, to put some sort of soft cloth around all the plastic bits cause no matter how careful you are, you'll scratch something and I hope it's not your RNS-510 like it was for me  :sad1: :stupid:

The reason I haven't done it sooner was because I was waiting for you to finish yours, but after your misadventures I thought the glovebox version might be a safer bet.

What version RNS do you have ?
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Re: MDI retrotfit questions
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2010, 12:49:14 pm »
 :signLOL:

I doubt you'll have as much trouble, just bear in mind it's fiddly but then not much isn't with a retrofit.
Glove box is undoubtedly easier I'd say, but your preference will decide whether you go for that.

I've no idea which RNS-510 I have tbh?
How do I find out?
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Re: MDI retrotfit questions
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2010, 07:10:06 pm »
The last letter of the part number printed on the reverse of the unit will let you know, i.e A or B.
 
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Is your volume display bar at the bottom or middle of the screen if in the middle it is an A if at the bottom it could be an A with updated FW or a B.
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Re: MDI retrotfit questions
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2010, 07:42:08 pm »
Volume display when called appears dead middle of the screen?...

I won't be able to get to the back on the unit till tomorrow, weather dependent Rob.
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Re: MDI retrotfit questions
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2010, 08:18:45 pm »
The other indicator is if you go to the balance / fader screen you will see an aerial view of the inside of the car, if you don't you've got an A revision model same as me.

I updated mine with files you can get here:

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,7154.0.html.

Its a worthwhile update.
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Re: MDI retrotfit questions
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2010, 08:54:49 pm »
I don't think mine has the display of the car in the tone settings? I'll check once more.

Thanks for the link to the files. I'm downloading now.
How do you apply them?
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Re: MDI retrotfit questions
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2010, 09:26:58 pm »
Burn them onto a CD as a data disc, verify then put into your RNS ......simples, full instructions in the thread I linked to.
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Re: MDI retrotfit questions
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2010, 10:54:29 pm »
There is also 5N0057342A (£170 plus VAT) which appears to fit in the glovebox  with the included storage shelf but looks like the armrest version (complete with looms but no ipod/usb lead)



I have not seen this before. Good find!

I like it a lot. But I'm a little concerned about the storage shelf. Or does this utilise the shelf where the handbook is meant to sit???

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Re: MDI retrotfit questions
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2010, 11:52:16 am »
There is also 5N0057342A (£170 plus VAT) which appears to fit in the glovebox  with the included storage shelf but looks like the armrest version (complete with looms but no ipod/usb lead)



I have not seen this before. Good find!

I like it a lot. But I'm a little concerned about the storage shelf. Or does this utilise the shelf where the handbook is meant to sit???

No idea, that how it shows it in the VW ETKA accessories catalogue