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WolfsburgEd:

--- Quote from: colesey on October 21, 2020, 07:27:48 pm ---There’s one school of thought that says we are happy driving around on 15 year old parts already so why buy new ones. I bought a pair of used passat hubs off ebay for @40 shipped but have yet to fit them. All the new nuts and bolts cost pretty much the same again.

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True ... but when its all the hassle / cost to get the strut off (either a lof of time for me because I'm out of practice OR a lot of expense to get somebody else to do it) then why not slowly strip it down and replace everything that is likely to give grief at the MOT in 6 months time. I can just see the situation of replacing the spring and then finding the shocker weeps or the ball joint has excessive play.

This car has had a habit of throwing up random / unusual issues out of nowhere so I'm looking to get one over it!!

I'm expecting it to feel somewhat newer / modern once done. Its done good service really so time for a minor restoration and scratch a few itches as we do it.

WolfsburgEd:
So I have my final spec for the suspension build but have a few queries around the ball joints and console bushes.

Shopping list:
1) Passat B6/CC wishbones
2) Passat B6/CC stub axle
4) VWR struts
5) Eibach Pro Kit springs
6) New wheel bearings
7) New top mounts

I ordered two RHS wishbones from ECP as they were stupidly cheap compared to the LHS even with having to change over the console bush and ball joint for RHS items. Having lookked over them, the aluminium items ARE reversible.

Over the last three years I've replaced both rear springs with used genuine parts as a stop-gap and now the front o/s has gone I've decided to blitz it all. A lot of the parts change is just out of the interest to see what difference it will make - I'm not intending to have it as a keeper but I was supposed to have sold it 3 years ago and just hung on to it because stuff needed doing on it so it may still see a few more years in my ownership!

Question 1: I have ONE good RHS ball joint from a B6 Passat (same as S3?), do I get ONE LHS or would I be better with a pair of Mk5 items? i'm not interested in getting the superpro adjustable items.

Question B: I have two Passat console bushes but they don't seem 'handed' - I was under the impression that the Mk5 console bushes are 'handed'? I was going to get the Meyle HD units as a compromise between stock and poly having only two voids

Question iii: The aluminium stub axle retro-fit ... how much does this increase track?

Quesion 4) Is there any further way to dial in additional negative camber with any component part besides getting the TT wishbones (which I didn't want to get in to the increased track, cost and other possible fitment issues from not fully understanding what I was getting in to!) and the after market adjustable top mounts?

Question 5) Does the Passat / CC / S3 wishbone introduce a touch of negative camber?

(edit) Q6 - Droplinks, can I maintain (new) stock droplinks? Its not a crazy lower, I was going to get the Meyle HD items as I've had good results with them on other applications.

Is there anything that I've missed off my shopping list for an 05 with 90k on original suspension, besides the replacement bolts etc? I've been around the houses trying to decide on what spring to do and I'm happy with the subtle drop of the Pro Kit.

Cheers.

colesey:
Q3 - same track
Q4 - lower suspension / top mounts / superpro balljoints / powerflex camber bush all give more camber
Q5 - no, same camber
Q6 - i use meyle HD also

pudding:

--- Quote from: WolfsburgEd ---This car has had a habit of throwing up random / unusual issues out of nowhere so I'm looking to get one over it!!

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That's all cars for you, German ones in particular, not just GTIs.  The older they get, the more issues are they throw at you, unless you keep on top of the preventative maintenance.


--- Quote from: WolfsburgEd ---I'm expecting it to feel somewhat newer / modern once done. Its done good service really so time for a minor restoration and scratch a few itches as we do it.

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You might want to dial back your expectations a little. Yes there are some worthwhile improvements to be had by fitting a Gen 3 rack, newer gearbox from a Scirocco/MK6 (if it's a manual) and better suspenstion etc, but it's certainly never going to be a MK7 Clubsport or anything like that.  MK5s are just old and clunky now, but still enjoyable cars none-the-less.

probedb:

--- Quote from: Pudding on October 30, 2020, 03:37:24 pm ---You might want to dial back your expectations a little. Yes there are some worthwhile improvements to be had by fitting a Gen 3 rack, newer gearbox from a Scirocco/MK6 (if it's a manual) and better suspenstion etc, but it's certainly never going to be a MK7 Clubsport or anything like that.  MK5s are just old and clunky now, but still enjoyable cars none-the-less.

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Totally agree on this, I'm replacing with mostly standard parts, 180k definitely warrants a new suspension. Was wanting to do the ARBs but currently very pissed off with UK Whiteline Performance. 2 months to ship a package? Mentions nothing about this on their site and definitely won't be using again or recommending if you want anything in a rush.

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