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Re: Suspension refresh (upgrade?)
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2022, 08:05:51 am »
just to add my 2p  :signLOL:

i have just gone through the ballache of changing shocks n springs and like you i initially considered coilovers. i didnt want to compromise comfort/being able to drive over speed humps over low stance.

i decided to go for the bilstein b4's with eibach 20m springs.   found on ebay as a set brand new for £380  :jumpmove:     she drives great now  :happy2:

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Re: Suspension refresh (upgrade?)
« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2022, 05:56:03 pm »
just to add my 2p  :signLOL:

i have just gone through the ballache of changing shocks n springs and like you i initially considered coilovers. i didnt want to compromise comfort/being able to drive over speed humps over low stance.

i decided to go for the bilstein b4's with eibach 20m springs.   found on ebay as a set brand new for £380  :jumpmove:     she drives great now  :happy2:

Hi, just seen the set you are talking about on ebay. Is ride similar to stock or noticebly harsher?

Also did you change anything else or just shocks + springs?

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Re: Suspension refresh (upgrade?)
« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2022, 12:54:50 pm »
just to add my 2p  :signLOL:

i have just gone through the ballache of changing shocks n springs and like you i initially considered coilovers. i didnt want to compromise comfort/being able to drive over speed humps over low stance.

i decided to go for the bilstein b4's with eibach 20m springs.   found on ebay as a set brand new for £380  :jumpmove:     she drives great now  :happy2:

Thanks for the input, yeah I think that looks like the most sensible option all round re benefit vs comfort vs cost.

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Re: Suspension refresh (upgrade?)
« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2022, 01:05:32 pm »
just to add my 2p  :signLOL:

i have just gone through the ballache of changing shocks n springs and like you i initially considered coilovers. i didnt want to compromise comfort/being able to drive over speed humps over low stance.

i decided to go for the bilstein b4's with eibach 20m springs.   found on ebay as a set brand new for £380  :jumpmove:     she drives great now  :happy2:
Are these Eibach pro-kit springs supplied with the B4's?

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Re: Suspension refresh (upgrade?)
« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2022, 01:38:09 pm »
Eibach don't do Pro springs for the GTI. Only non-GTIs @ -30mm, which will drop a GTI ~ 10-15mm.

If you want GTI specific, Sportsline is the only spring they offer.
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Re: Suspension refresh (upgrade?)
« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2022, 01:44:36 pm »
Eibach don't the Pro springs for the GTI. Only non-GTIs @ -30mm, which will drop a GTI ~ 10-15mm.

If you want GTI specific, Sportsline is the only spring they offer.

I was not even aware, thanks for the heads-up. Suspension is such a subjective thing, especially depending on the roads you live.

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Re: Suspension refresh (upgrade?)
« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2022, 02:56:59 pm »
Eibach don't the Pro springs for the GTI. Only non-GTIs @ -30mm, which will drop a GTI ~ 10-15mm.

If you want GTI specific, Sportsline is the only spring they offer.

I was not even aware, thanks for the heads-up. Suspension is such a subjective thing, especially depending on the roads you live.

No worries. Pro is softer than Sportsline, so probably why they don't offer it for the GTI as it would be barely any stiffer than standard.

If you don't have great roads, then my suggestion would be Eibach Pro Non-GTI / H&R non-GTI, with MK5 GTI spec B4s, or MK6 spec GTI B6 if you can stretch to them.

That will give you a 10-15mm drop, which is way more forgiving that most specific sports kits/coilovers, but not too soft like the Racingline setup.  It feels like a good compromise to me.  For pants roads, you need suspension travel and soft springs/damping.  Slammage just gives you back and teeth breakage, and a car that just looks ridiculous and embarrassing bouncing around over the tiniest of bumps most other cars don't even notice.




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Re: Suspension refresh (upgrade?)
« Reply #22 on: October 31, 2022, 03:53:35 pm »
Was thinking of grabbing this kit, seems like a decent deal? https://www.bandel-online.de/fahrwerk/stossdaempfer-federn-sets/eibach-bilstein-sportline-sportfahrwerk-o55mm-abe-va-1130kg-50-35mm-vw-golf-5-6-153030.html

What are Febi/Bilstein upper mounts like though? Would I be better off getting it without all the extras and just picking up the OEM+ parts? (It's €350 without the extras)

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Re: Suspension refresh (upgrade?)
« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2023, 03:22:12 pm »
Was thinking of grabbing this kit, seems like a decent deal? https://www.bandel-online.de/fahrwerk/stossdaempfer-federn-sets/eibach-bilstein-sportline-sportfahrwerk-o55mm-abe-va-1130kg-50-35mm-vw-golf-5-6-153030.html

What are Febi/Bilstein upper mounts like though? Would I be better off getting it without all the extras and just picking up the OEM+ parts? (It's €350 without the extras)
Buy Lemforder TTRS front top mounts. The rears you can use stock parts. They're metal, so not sure if they wear that much.

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Re: Suspension refresh (upgrade?)
« Reply #24 on: August 08, 2023, 09:37:54 am »
Looks like Shoduchi was responding to an old post. That said, if looking at kits like that one you really need to make sure that the shock absorbers are shortened for the shorter springs, rather than just factory spec replacements. Remember Bilstein makes top end and very basic shocks. Would be a shame to buy a new kit with mismatched shocks.

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Re: Suspension refresh (upgrade?)
« Reply #25 on: August 11, 2023, 08:56:34 pm »
Indeed. Not only is Eibach Sportline a poor match to the Bilstein B4, the B4 is also as you say, standard length, so that is going to be a pile of sh*te with stiff -35mm springs.  Bilstein state in their catalogue the B4 is for standard springs, or a very mild uprated spring no more than -20mm.

Those springs need B8 dampers.


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