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Enigmatik:

--- Quote from: Clarkj93 on January 05, 2023, 05:46:24 pm ---Yeah yellowspeed are good. Area Motorsport use tons of their products on their cars and they're at the top of their game frankly.
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Yeah it was Area Motorsport's Mk7 clubsport build that put me onto the Yellowspeed stuff! The B14's were also top of my list until I saw the value of the Yellowspeed DPS's. At the same time as really wanting the YSR's, I'm so torn on whether to just fit the Racingline spring/damper kit I already have as a "stage 1" type thing and go coilovers later... or recoup what I can selling the Racingline kit now as they're still brand spanking new...

You would definitely think there'd be some decent performance centres down south here, and I'm probably being daft, but I'm really struggling to find places that don't either only cater to high end (I was turned away from a couple saying they only do Mk7 or newer) or are unreasonably expensive. I'll find something eventually

Enigmatik:

--- Quote from: bobby_fodge on January 06, 2023, 05:09:31 pm ---Fit a bucket seat. I have one and it makes throwing the car around so much easier when your not bracing yourself against the wheel or floor.

You could fit a lightweight battery and remove the spare and jack to save some weight.

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I've done no research at all on lightweight batteries, but good call on the buckets, definitely something I'm wanting in the next few months, but priority in order will be suspension upgrades, BBK and performance (Stage 2+, though feeling the arm being twisted for Stage 3...) first, then look to some track focussed items. The bucket seat setup I've seen mentioned time and again is the Cobra Nogaro's with M2 Motorsport mounts/rails, though I'd love to hear from someone with first hand experience with them. Spotted these ones with the tartan bits which I'd sell an organ for :laugh:




--- Quote from: bobby_fodge on January 06, 2023, 05:09:31 pm ---Poly bushes will be a worthwhile investment in my opinion, even if you only do the the front.

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I've got my paws on a Whiteline "Essential Vehicle Kit" which includes poly ALK with front arm bushes, trailing arm bushes, steering rack bush & gearbox mount insert. While not totally comprehensive, it seems like a great first step. Also have the Whiteline bump steer correction ball joints on hand for when the car is a bit lower, and a pair of Passat LCA's. All of the above still needs to be fitted.

Last bit of poly stuff I bought in a moment of weakness over a 18 months back and am very hesitant to fit is a full Revo engine mount kit. I've seen a few reviews saying the NVH levels aren't worth it if you're retaining the car as a daily, so they're just sitting for now...

Clarkj93:
If you didnt know GSM are the go to gurus on anything to do with driver seats in motorsport in England. I spoke to them about the m2 rails and they advised against and said get a suitable subframe and add a runner to it by the likes of someone like Sparco, they said they're okay but they've seen a few bend under not the heaviest driver weight after some time so might not be great if you daily the car or do a fair number of track days per year that generally wears stuff a little more.

Depends if you can budget possibly losing 100 or so quid on them and buying a grands worth of coilovers more or less in addition.

Yeah my preferred shop is a 1.5 hour drive away, you always have to travel a bit to find the good places I've found, I just go to them once a year for a list of jobs that are beyond my ability or don't have to equipment for.

Tyres are super important to everything also. Like a road based tyre like a PS4 means you can get away with softer suspension and smaller brake setup because you're generating less grip so less heat and less wear/friction on all components where as if you run a true semi slick stiffer setup and bigger brakes are needed as you'll generate more grip which means more load transfer, roll and heat.

Enigmatik:

--- Quote from: Clarkj93 on January 07, 2023, 02:17:37 pm ---If you didnt know GSM are the go to gurus on anything to do with driver seats in motorsport in England. I spoke to them about the m2 rails and they advised against and said get a suitable subframe and add a runner to it by the likes of someone like Sparco, they said they're okay but they've seen a few bend under not the heaviest driver weight after some time so might not be great if you daily the car or do a fair number of track days per year that generally wears stuff a little more.

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When you mentioned GSM I thought I'd seen the brand - I'd actually been looking at options on their Sportseats4U website the whole time. Thanks for the heads up on the M2 rails! The Sparco options certainly look a lot sturdier, if not a bit more complex with the frame, side mounts and slider as separate components, but ~100 quid more for peace of mind seems worthwhile.


--- Quote from: Clarkj93 on January 07, 2023, 02:17:37 pm ---Depends if you can budget possibly losing 100 or so quid on them and buying a grands worth of coilovers more or less in addition.

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Yeah I'm in the hole for ~£720 for the Racingline setup with fresh top mounts, bump stops and dust covers, and also an OE LCA bushing kit I bought to go with it that cost me another £30. I'll try flog the lot for £650, then I'm ok with covering off the difference for the coilovers. The racingline kit is a really solid OEM+ suspension upgrade, tbf.


--- Quote from: Clarkj93 on January 07, 2023, 02:17:37 pm ---Tyres are super important to everything also. Like a road based tyre like a PS4 means you can get away with softer suspension and smaller brake setup because you're generating less grip so less heat and less wear/friction on all components where as if you run a true semi slick stiffer setup and bigger brakes are needed as you'll generate more grip which means more load transfer, roll and heat.

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Makes sense that. I've only done a single track day with the stock suspension/brakes setup on the Revo Stage 1 tune and the PS4's held up fine for those purposes, but once I've upgraded the rest and am consistently at the track I'll definitely consider a track wheels/slicks setup. Any advice on which slicks work well on the Mk5 platform?

Clarkj93:

--- Quote from: Enigmatik on January 09, 2023, 04:53:12 pm ---Makes sense that. I've only done a single track day with the stock suspension/brakes setup on the Revo Stage 1 tune and the PS4's held up fine for those purposes, but once I've upgraded the rest and am consistently at the track I'll definitely consider a track wheels/slicks setup. Any advice on which slicks work well on the Mk5 platform?

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If you only have 1 set of wheels then Nankang NS2R's are reasonably priced and work well on the road (noisy though) as well as being able to cope with track work much better than any road tyre and they're OK in the wet too. They're slower than the the AR-1 which is a true semi slick but they're an all rounder for the same price as ps4's typically so good value in my opinion, they're what I use currently and no complaints.

If you have 2 or even more sets... then AR-1 are very reasonable compared to other brands and just as fast and sometimes faster. Check out this video, good comparison of some of the most popular choices including the two I mentioned

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