DSG kangarooing in 2nd gear

[DurinsBane117]

Hi everyone,

I'm having some issues with my Golf GTI. When the car is hot (after driving about 2hrs) it starts kangarooing in 2nd gear when coming to a stop, the revs are jumping up and down when this happens until it changes to 1st, sometimes it will stay in 2nd and I get a loud clunk when I set off while it's in 2nd.

The gearbox oil and filter has been changed last year and also had a dsg reset done which sorted some issues but not the one above. The cars been scanned and shows no fault codes.

Could this be a sign of the mech unit going or worn clutch packs? Was wondering if anyone's experienced the same symptoms and what the fix was.

Thanks!

[GreigC]

Failed solenoid or (solenoids) in mechatronics unit. Classic symptoms unfortunately.

I know this because I repaired my DSG solenoids on my car myself.

They are officially called: VARIABLE FORCE SOLENOID N215 & N216

Only buy Borg Warner genuine items not Chinese copies.

Failure usually caused by not keeping DSG serviced on time. The symptoms start once the DSG fluid is up to temperature and oil is thinner and the solenoid(s) can’t operate properly. Giving you the lurch and harsh gear changes from 1st, 2nd & reverse gears.

Thanks

[DurinsBane117]

I thought it might be, unfortunately I wouldn't be comfortable doing that myself haha. Will have to see how much a gearbox specialist will charge, may even look into getting a replacement gearbox.

Thanks for your help!

[Jons1001]

I thought it might be, unfortunately I wouldn't be comfortable doing that myself haha. Will have to see how much a gearbox specialist will charge, may even look into getting a replacement gearbox.

Thanks for your help!

Hi, see link for an idea on price. I've heard these mentioned before and seem to have a good reputation.

https://milta.co/mobile-first-automatic-repair-gearbox-prices/?gclid=CjwKCAiA2rOeBhAsEiwA2Pl7Q_4kZwOL6KYlu5iEaQnUUMNbDCT_tqLjwohGWDKbBDjTB_Igk1bCHRoCxbkQAvD_BwE

Sadly think mine will need doing at some point as i've experienced similar symptoms to you after a long journey. Good to know it might just be the mechatronic i suppose but still a fair old  chunk of cash. Dsg services on mine done late at 50k miles & 100k miles (now on 120k).

[DurinsBane117]

I thought it might be, unfortunately I wouldn't be comfortable doing that myself haha. Will have to see how much a gearbox specialist will charge, may even look into getting a replacement gearbox.

Thanks
Thanks for your help!

Hi, see link for an idea on price. I've heard these mentioned before and seem to have a good reputation.

https://milta.co/mobile-first-automatic-repair-gearbox-prices/?gclid=CjwKCAiA2rOeBhAsEiwA2Pl7Q_4kZwOL6KYlu5iEaQnUUMNbDCT_tqLjwohGWDKbBDjTB_Igk1bCHRoCxbkQAvD_BwE

Sadly think mine will need doing at some point as i've experienced similar symptoms to you after a long journey. Good to know it might just be the mechatronic i suppose but still a fair old  chunk of cash. Dsg services on mine done late at 50k miles & 100k miles (now on 120k).

Thanks for that I'll check out their page, I've found some garages local to me that may be able to do the repair, gonna call them tomorrow to get a rough idea of the price, I know its gonna cost me a fair bit haha.

Bit annoyed that mine is failing tbh as the first dsg service was done at 40k then around 75k and got one done recently at 109k but I know it's a common issue. Hope u get urs sorted!

[Jons1001]

I thought it might be, unfortunately I wouldn't be comfortable doing that myself haha. Will have to see how much a gearbox specialist will charge, may even look into getting a replacement gearbox.

Thanks
Thanks for your help!

Hi, see link for an idea on price. I've heard these mentioned before and seem to have a good reputation.

https://milta.co/mobile-first-automatic-repair-gearbox-prices/?gclid=CjwKCAiA2rOeBhAsEiwA2Pl7Q_4kZwOL6KYlu5iEaQnUUMNbDCT_tqLjwohGWDKbBDjTB_Igk1bCHRoCxbkQAvD_BwE

Sadly think mine will need doing at some point as i've experienced similar symptoms to you after a long journey. Good to know it might just be the mechatronic i suppose but still a fair old  chunk of cash. Dsg services on mine done late at 50k miles & 100k miles (now on 120k).

Thanks for that I'll check out their page, I've found some garages local to me that may be able to do the repair, gonna call them tomorrow to get a rough idea of the price, I know its gonna cost me a fair bit haha.

Bit annoyed that mine is failing tbh as the first dsg service was done at 40k then around 75k and got one done recently at 109k but I know it's a common issue. Hope u get urs sorted!

Cheers, let us know how you get on as i see you're in London so would be interesting to know what sort of prices you get quoted (I am in Kent so not far away).

[DurinsBane117]

Just an update on the issue:

I took it to a gearbox specialist who diagnosed the issues and was quoted around £2k for the repairs.

This includes new clutch packs, clutch control solenoids, oil, filter, labour and adaption/road test.

[GreigC]

Most garages will only do both mechatronics & clutch packs in fear they pick the wrong issue. (It covers there back) I can assure you the mechatronics is your issue. About £350 in parts by the time you factor in the 2 x solenoids, gaskets and DSG Oil & filter. But I understand your situation you can’t do it yourself. Just a lot to spend on 14+ year old car. (In my opinion)

[Jons1001]

The link i posted above looks like they do the lot for £1900? Might be worth giving them a call to discuss. Have heard good things about them on the forum before.

[Jons1001]

Most garages will only do both mechatronics & clutch packs in fear they pick the wrong issue. (It covers there back) I can assure you the mechatronics is your issue. About £350 in parts by the time you factor in the 2 x solenoids, gaskets and DSG Oil & filter. But I understand your situation you can’t do it yourself. Just a lot to spend on 14+ year old car. (In my opinion)

Hi Greig,

Out of interest is this the correct part? (need two of these?)

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/175136409441?var=0&mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=710-53481-19255-0&campid=5338268676&toolid=10044&customid=EAIaIQobChMIqdbZ_IuV_QIVSJ7tCh3sDgPTEAQYCCABEgIzIvD_BwE

Also where did you find out how to replace them? i think i have the same issue - Juddering at low speeds after a long drive, also some horrendous grinding noise. This only happened a few times though and i've had other long drives since with no issues, strange.

[DurinsBane117]

Thanks for the responses guys.

I'll speak to the garage and see if they can do the solenoids and not the clutch packs. £2k is more than I was expecting for the fix I'd rather not replace the parts that don't actually need replacing yet.

Tbh I don't drive it long distances too often so I'm not experiencing the issues everytime I drive but I do want to sort them, I've already spent a fair amount on general maintenance and a few mods over the past year. Not had any other major issues with it apart from this one 🤞 been kept well and serviced every year by the pervious owner, I'm only the 2nd to own the car.

I'll give those people a call too and see what they advise.

Will update this until I get the issue sorted!

[GreigC]

Item for solenoids:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/402560914398?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=ujUt4PDmSia&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=fNXbuBooTum&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

You will technically only need one. But I thought if one is failing… I may as well replace the two whilst in there… (both are the same) as it’s difficult to tell which is failing without testing it properly. So I’d advise changing both. It’s very easy to change the solenoids only two bolts hold each to the main board.

Following this guide helped me:

http://www.evosoft.dk/tech.html

Remember to buy new seals for the DSG fluid belly pan.

Item for Gasket:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/303600748762?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=K0OtDP8FRHy&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=fNXbuBooTum&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[Jons1001]

Thanks for that, much appreciated.

[GreigC]

Make sure the garage replace the DSG fluid to correct level and perform calibration reset once they replace the solenoids and a new DSG sump plug washer. Hopefully they know all this if they are a specialist.

[Jons1001]

Thanks for the responses guys.

I'll speak to the garage and see if they can do the solenoids and not the clutch packs. £2k is more than I was expecting for the fix I'd rather not replace the parts that don't actually need replacing yet.

Tbh I don't drive it long distances too often so I'm not experiencing the issues everytime I drive but I do want to sort them, I've already spent a fair amount on general maintenance and a few mods over the past year. Not had any other major issues with it apart from this one 🤞 been kept well and serviced every year by the pervious owner, I'm only the 2nd to own the car.

I'll give those people a call too and see what they advise.

Will update this until I get the issue sorted!

Hi there just wondering if you got this sorted?