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Some Help Broke Down :(
« on: August 24, 2023, 09:01:15 pm »
HI Guys

Don't get much time for the car these days only doing the minimum to keep it running. Maybe a little less than the minimum  :scared1:

Yesterday on the motorway the car lost power and the wife and kids were stranded on the hard sholder.  :sick:

The info i have.
Battey light came on
Total loss of power car came to standstill. 
Engine was still running and was shut off.

The findings
Alternator belt was snapped completly birdnested. (tow truck driver ripped out old belt.)
VCDS Below

Now
I replaced the alternator belt and also checked the cambelt the cambelt is warn but its expected as i changed it 8 years ago.
Car just turns over and does not start.
EPC is on not sure if this is always on when trying to start.
Its strange how there was a loss of power.
Its very squeeky when turning over.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

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Wednesday,23,August,2023,22:01:12:39050
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 11 x64
VCDS Version: 23.3.1.0 (x64)
Data version: 20230421 DS346.2
www.Ross-Tech.com

Mileage: 233250km-144934mi   Repair Order:


233
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Chassis Type: 1K-VW35 (1K0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 37 42 44 46 52 55 56 75 77

   Mileage: 233250km-144934miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
75-Telematics -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: Malfunction 0010
 
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5 Faults Found:
001393 - Brake Switch (F)
               P0571 - 008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 7
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 226061 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 08:12:23

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 964 /min
                    Load: 17.6 %
                    Speed: 25.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 90.0∞C
                    Temperature: 42.0∞C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 13.589 V

005634 - Power Supply Terminal 30
               P1602 - 002 - Voltage too Low - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: -40.0∞C
                    Temperature: -40.0∞C
                    Absolute Pres.: 0.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 0.000 V

004243 - Bank 1; Fuel Measuring System 2
               P1093 - 008 - Malfunction - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 233253 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 11:30:55

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 2327 /min
                    Load: 4.3 %
                    Speed: 97.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 92.0∞C
                    Temperature: 84.0∞C
                    Absolute Pres.: 990.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 12.192 V

000274 - Intake Air Temp. Sensor (G42)
               P0112 - 001 - Signal too Low - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 233253 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 11:30:58

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 2122 /min
                    Load: 42.3 %
                    Speed: 85.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 92.0∞C
                    Temperature: 143.0∞C
                    Absolute Pres.: 990.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 11.811 V

000257 - Mass Air Flow Sensor (G70)
               P0101 - 004 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 233253 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 11:30:59

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 2066 /min
                    Load: 40.4 %
                    Speed: 83.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 92.0∞C
                    Temperature: 143.0∞C
                    Absolute Pres.: 990.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 11.811 V

Readiness: 0000 0000

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
   Part No SW: 02E 300 042 Q    HW: 02E 927 770 AE
   Component: GSG DSG         070 0925 
   Revision: 04007000    Serial number: 00000505270296
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 2149EDFBF851609BE4-8074

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 Q    HW: 1K0 907 379 Q
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0102 
   Revision: 00T12001   
   Coding: 0004738
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 408F487F131B49938B-8014

3 Faults Found:
57511 - Unknown Error Code
            Unknown - 015 -  - MIL ON
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
01314 - Engine Control Module
            013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 044 AB
   Component: ClimatronicPQ35 066 0404 
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 67DDB3E356F55EAB6A-8032

1 Fault Found:
00926 - Terminal 30
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 E    HW: 3C0 937 049 E
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H37 1002 
   Revision: 00H37000    Serial number: 00000002060872
   Coding: E78F0F270004180000140000140000000009FF0719
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 2B550FD38A9DBACB4E-807E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 C  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer VW350  013  0402 
   Coding: 00065493
   Shop #: WSC 01279 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 T  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AF.CLB
   Component: RegenLichtSens 011  1110 
   Coding: 00207646
   Shop #: WSC 01279 

2 Faults Found:
00526 - Brake Light Switch (F)
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 110
                    Mileage: 226983 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON
                    Voltage: 14.15 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        ON

00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 102
                    Mileage: 232977 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON
                    Voltage: 8.75 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 N    HW: 1K0 909 605 N
   Component: 2E AIRBAG VW8   015 2100 
   Revision: 03015000    Serial number: 0038ED0K027O 
   Coding: 0012869
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 377D23A346D50E2B3A-8062

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME0B04370EA

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME0B40186FH

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HSME077E1667F

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HSME077F0549F

1 Fault Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AG    HW: 1K0 953 549 AG
   Component: J0527           634 0070 
   Coding: 0012122
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 77FDE3A30655CE2BFA-8022

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
   Component: E0221           007 0050

1 Fault Found:
00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 1K6 920 872
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 1212 
   Coding: 0007103
   Shop #: WSC 08650 572 93102
   VCID: 6ED3C6C7790F8FE329-803A

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V4.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 S    HW: 1K0 907 951
   Component: J533  Gateway   H07 0071 
   Revision:   H07 01    Serial number: 241008F1002300
   Coding: ED811F06600602000000
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00156
   VCID: 377D23A346D50E2B3A-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No: 1K6 920 872
   Component: IMMO            VDD 1212 
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 6ED3C6C7790F8FE329-803A

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J0506)       Labels:. 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 R    HW: 1T0 035 680 R
   Component: RNS-MID       H23 6270 
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7P7712993
   Coding: 0A0004000000000D0000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 3D71318BA4E9247BE0-8068

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 919 859 B
   Component: EU West V10  8048

7 Faults Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 102
                    Mileage: 232977 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 07:09:34

00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 102
                    Mileage: 232977 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 07:09:10

00857 - CD Changer Unit (R41)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 70
                    Mileage: 226056 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 15:14:00

00873 - Bass Speaker Rear Right (R17)
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 70
                    Mileage: 226056 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 18:03:11

00872 - Bass Speaker Rear Left (R15)
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 70
                    Mileage: 226056 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 18:03:11

00871 - Bass Speaker Front Right (R23)
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 70
                    Mileage: 227304 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 15:16:14

00870 - Bass Speaker Front Left (R21)
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 70
                    Mileage: 227304 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 15:16:14


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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MAX2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 701 L
   Component: Tuer-SG         024 2469 
   Coding: 0000118
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 377D23A346D50E2B3A-8062

4 Faults Found:
01811 - Supply Voltage for Door Controller; Drivers Side (J386)
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
00120 - Outside Warning Light/Door exit Light Driver Side
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
00109 - Left Mirror Turn Signal Lamp (L131)
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
00131 - Outside Door Handle Illumination/mirror Light Driver Side
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V2.clb
   Part No: 1K1 909 144 J
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.5   D04 1606 
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 326B12B7ADB7EB030D-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 AQ    HW: 1K0 959 433 AQ
   Component: 01 KSG PQ35 G2  010 0101 
   Revision: 00010000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 80900A0851030638000484057008CAC6F0A040
   Shop #: WSC 01287 785 00200
   VCID: 7F0D0B832E65F66BB2-802A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 D
   Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H07 9001

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 907 719 C
   Component: Neigungssensor  005 0003

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K0 951 177 A
   Component: Innenraumueberw.005 0202

2 Faults Found:
01135 - Interior Monitoring Sensors
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100010
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 61
                    Mileage: 232974 km
                    Time Indication: 0

00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01110010
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Time Indication: 0


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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MAX2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 702 L
   Component: Tuer-SG         024 2469 
   Coding: 0000118
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 387F209F4BCB015333-806C

3 Faults Found:
01812 - Supply Voltage for Door Controller; Pass. Side (J387)
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
00121 - Outside Warning Light/Door exit Light Passenger Side
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
00132 - Outside Door Handle Illumination/mirror Light Passenger Side
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent

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Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 1T0-907-357.lbl
   Part No: 1T0 907 357
   Component: Dynamische LWR      0003 
   Coding: 0000003
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 74E7D4AF1723A533DF-8020

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J0506)       Labels:. 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 R    HW: 1T0 035 680 R
   Component: RNS-MID       H23 6270 
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7P7712993
   Coding: 0A0004000000000D0000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 3D71318BA4E9247BE0-8068

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 919 859 B
   Component: EU West V10  8048

7 Faults Found:
00857 - CD Changer Unit (R41)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 70
                    Mileage: 226056 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 15:14:00

00873 - Bass Speaker Rear Right (R17)
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 70
                    Mileage: 226056 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 18:03:11

00872 - Bass Speaker Rear Left (R15)
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 70
                    Mileage: 226056 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 18:03:11

00871 - Bass Speaker Front Right (R23)
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 70
                    Mileage: 227304 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 15:16:14

00870 - Bass Speaker Front Left (R21)
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 70
                    Mileage: 227304 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 15:16:14

00532 - Supply Voltage B+
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 102
                    Mileage: 232977 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 07:09:34

00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 102
                    Mileage: 232977 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 07:09:10


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Address 75: Telematics
Cannot be reached

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Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels:| 3C8-035-730-A.clb
   Part No SW: 3C8 035 730 C    HW: 3C8 035 730 C
   Component: Telefon       012 0822 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 35909603374642
   Coding: 020104010100110000000401
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVPremi A02705
   ROD: EV_UHVPremi_A02.rod
   VCID: 2345E7F32A4D728BF6-8076

1 Fault Found:
13893632 - Function Restricted due to Insufficient Voltage
          U1400 00 [008] - -
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 103


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Re: Some Help Broke Down :(
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2023, 09:35:50 am »
I don't hear the fuel pump when i open the drivers door how can i run this with vcds?

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Re: Some Help Broke Down :(
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2023, 11:40:42 am »
Checked the cam follower there was good pressure.

This snapped with the lightest of touches  :scared:



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Re: Some Help Broke Down :(
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2023, 01:06:14 pm »
A bit more info from the wife when changing from drive to park there was a horrible grinding/crunching noise

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Re: Some Help Broke Down :(
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2023, 11:06:12 pm »
Its foobared

The timing mark is just gone 6 when in should be 12.

Options?

Dont leave your cam belts 8 years guys  :ashamed:
 




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Re: Some Help Broke Down :(
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2023, 01:12:24 pm »
Crank and cam turn at different speeds. The crank turns 2 revolutions and the camshaft once for 1 engine cycle. Try and turn it over once more, line up the crank pulley with the relevant mark first then have a look where the camshaft is - not the other way round. If the belt is intact and still has tension then  why would the timing be out? Don't scrap it just yet :happy2:

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Re: Some Help Broke Down :(
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2023, 02:42:00 pm »
Thanks for your input, I started over.

Set the crank pulley close to tdc.



The camshaft is about 15 teeth before the mark (it should not be there)



One more turn and it moves opposite.



Another turn puts it back to about 15 teeth out  :confused:

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Re: Some Help Broke Down :(
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2023, 03:43:59 pm »
Yeah 8 years is double VW's official service interval of 4 years / 60,000 miles, which ever comes first, but unfortunately that knowledge doesn't help your situation now. But if it turns over and does not start you can still hope nothing has collided internally.

If I were you, I'd get the timing right first (I think that's what's stopping it from firing up) with your current belt and then do a compression test. If all looks good (109-210psi), get a new belt and water pump kit in.

As for that annoying coolant pipe, I snapped mine three months ago doing the cam chain. I'm not sure about the part no. for the top pipe but the bottom one has the part no. on it:



I got both mine off a scrap gti for €20.

Hope that's of some help  :happy2:
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Re: Some Help Broke Down :(
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2023, 03:52:15 pm »
Yeah 8 years is double VW's official service interval of 4 years / 60,000 miles, which ever comes first, but unfortunately that knowledge doesn't help your situation now.
Yes i did the belt lasttime and added a two piece cover it would have been easy second time arround, just so many other jobs to do.

If I were you, I'd get the timing right first (I think that's what's stopping it from firing up) with your current belt and then do a compression test. If all looks good (109-210psi), get a new belt and water pump kit in.
I was going to take the rocker cover off and then the head. But i will try what you recomended.

thanks for the help i've already replaced the coolant pipe




« Last Edit: August 26, 2023, 08:55:40 pm by dazza »

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Re: Some Help Broke Down :(
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2023, 05:42:33 pm »
so the eight year old belt was not to blame its a wire from the auxillary belt that snapped. Check your aux belts guys.



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Re: Some Help Broke Down :(
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2023, 09:00:58 pm »
The crank is aligned, whats the best way to turn the camshaft sprocket?







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Re: Some Help Broke Down :(
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2023, 10:40:55 pm »
If the pistons are at TDC you'll probably find the cam won't turn becaust of valve-piston hitting

Ideally needs the pistons all halfway in their bores to allow the cam to be timed.

I would say you have bent valves anyway so I'd be taking the head off.

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Re: Some Help Broke Down :(
« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2023, 10:57:15 pm »
If the pistonns are at TDC you'll probably find the cam won't turn becaust of valve-piston hitting

Ideally needs the pistons all halfway in their bores to allow the cam to be timed.

I would say you have bent valves anyway so I'd be taking the head off.

Its hard to see how there would be no damage.

What will i need to reinstall to do the compression test?

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Re: Some Help Broke Down :(
« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2023, 11:15:26 pm »
Cam belt refitted (new belt ideally) and tensioned, timed up. Bottom pulley back on so belt doesn't fly off.

As previous post, you'll need the pistons halfway in the bore to allow the top end to be timed up, then time the bottom end up.

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Re: Some Help Broke Down :(
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2023, 11:42:25 pm »
Cam belt refitted (new belt ideally) and tensioned, timed up. Bottom pulley back on so belt doesn't fly off.

As previous post, you'll need the pistons halfway in the bore to allow the top end to be timed up, then time the bottom end up.



Great thanks what about the mount, fuel/coolant lines?

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