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Can anyone who has dealt with a radio upgrade and can module swap help me out?

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Marticus:
Hi guys, quick one hopefully but I'm struggling a bit.

I was planning on upgrading my radio but read about the battery drain issue so figured I would try upgrading the can module.

So I bought a sh*tty second hand android head unit for testing and a newer gateway module (1K0907530S),

I connected the radio first and confirmed that sure enough it's draining the battery.

And last night I swapped the modules over, using obd11 I configured the control units and long coding from the old module, and except for some warnings about foglight bulbs (I need to go back and copy config from central electrics I guess) everything else seems to be ok.

Problem is that the radio still has power 100% of the time regardless of if the key is in the ignition or not.

From looking at rosstech I think the module I bought should work. So I'm not sure now if it's the module, radio, or something in config.

So for you guys that have done this, how does it look? Does the radio have power all the time? I guess the car should send a signal when ignition is off telling it to shut down?

Or should power be cut?

RetroRaz:
You can still power the radio with or without the keys. What happens when the radio is on and you switch off the car? Does the radio switch off automatically?

fakie1977:
Likely the ignition power and continuous power cables are the wrong way round to the headunit so you will need to swap them around. Use a multimeter and check against the wiring diagram for the headunit. If that is the case you can take the wire pins out of the plugs and swap them over.


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ZoliWorks:
That's how most android head units are, especially the cheap ones. They are powered 24/7. Normally, they should go into standby mode when you remove the key from the ignition but that's just a fancy way of saying "the radio is still on but the screen is black with a clock on it".

They should come with a plug with 2 wires (in my case it was a tiny black plug with a black and orange wire). If you un-do this plug, it'll only be powered on when you put the key in ignition and will shut off automatically when you remove it.

There's no point in swapping your gateway if you use an aftermarket unit as these dont communicate with the car. You only need the gateway upgrade if you're switching to something like a RNS 510 and your car is pre 2008. If you're ever swapping to an OEM unit and your gateway doesn't communicate with the radio, you'll actually get an error saying incorrect communication or something along those lines.


I've had one of these in the past and sold it after a year. sh*tty sound quality, managed to fry 2 of my tweeters due to the badly regulated built-in amp, microphone that's useless as others cant hear you even if you are shouting into it... oh and the unit randomly out of nowhere did a factory reset 3 times in those 2 years.

Marticus:
Thanks for the responses everyone, got it sorted now.


--- Quote from: ZoliWorks on June 25, 2024, 10:37:25 pm ---
They should come with a plug with 2 wires (in my case it was a tiny black plug with a black and orange wire). If you un-do this plug, it'll only be powered on when you put the key in ignition and will shut off automatically when you remove it.


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This was exactly it, I disconnected those wired and it's off now.

You're right about the quality, my plan is to buy something OEM I just picked this one up second hand and super cheap specifically for testing. And I guess it's done it's job kinda.

Good news is the new gateway module seems to be working fine. So I can tick that off the list.

Thanks again guys.

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