GTI cam adjuster/phaser wear - ALL DONE ✔️

[mjmallia]

Well on inspection of the cam adjuster when I replaced the three plastic rings, I have wear grooves inside due to mine being an early 2005 GTI that had the metal rings originally.

Similar to the AKS image here:


Had a quote from TPS and it is £700 for only the adjuster then additional parts like the chain, tensioner, gaskets etc make it in the £1000 ball park.......... and can not bring myself to spend that on this good, old car.

I was thinking of getting an INA one as the rest of the stuff on the car is perfect.....new genuine chain and tensioner done a few years ago etc

Am I being sensible getting the INA part at about £180

[mjmallia]

Another possibility is to get a secondhand genuine one.  I can get one still attached to a cam from a Golf 6R 2012........just waiting on some images to see if there is any wear or not from the rings.

[ZoliWorks]

I've bought an INA wheel, chain and tensioner. No complaints whatsoever. It completely changed the car after fitting cause before, not only was it giving me timing errors, it was also still accelerating even after i left off the gas. I could literally floor it to 3k, let off the gas, shift gears, disengage the clutch and the car would start spinning the tires for a second and a half, pulling forward. All this with the gas pedal being untouched 

[mjmallia]

Well the 6R option has wear on it also, so will most probably go down the new INA route (best of the aftermarket I can find).

Just starting to prepare myself with parts and tools

[PTR12]

I have a used OEM part that has no markings on it. I can send photos as soon as I get to it. It needs one of the small bolts replaced because it stripped when I tried to open it for cleaning and further inspection.

[mjmallia]

Bite the bullet time and ordered an INA cam adjuster and elring gasket set at a really good price, but also ordered the genuine bolt and socket tool from TPS

[ZoliWorks]

Careful with that bolt. Strips insanely easy. I've had to hammer an M10 into mine to get it out

[PTR12]

Careful with that bolt. Strips insanely easy. I've had to hammer an M10 into mine to get it out

I did that 1 month ago.. I had to drill it out. First time drilling into an engine isn’t a pleasure:)

[mjmallia]

 

[PTR12]

Good luck with it!!

[mjmallia]

Small update.

Had the parts and tools delivered.

The cam locking tool was cleaned up, then I welded it up for strength with a lick of paint to finish after a lot of reading other peoples experience. Not pretty but will do the job







Even the chain which I believe to be genuine VW in INA packaging has the copper link like OE



The INA parts look like really good quality and a few have the VW part numbers ground off



Here is a genuine VW part and you can see the part numbers etc before they were ground off






Finally the cam adjuster which is fresh and smooth on the inside. Feels like a very weighty and solid part, so feel more confident having seen the quality of it now.

[lazy]

Good luck keep us updated how you get on. It's not a job I'd be looking forward to doing.

[mjmallia]

A quick question as to the tightness of the cam adjuster bolt.

A number of guides state 20Nm (15 ft lbs) plus a 45 degree turn and then the workshop manual I have states to tighten to 100Nm

[pudding]

It's 100nm 

20nm + 45 it would fall off after a few thousand miles.

I strongly recommend getting an assistant to push the torque wrench onto the bolt whilst tightening it because the head is so shallow, you can cheese it out very easily doing it solo. Even more so removing the old bolt! As it's a tapered bolt, it grips really hard onto the VVT adjuster and needs a LOT of torque to remove.  And I hope you have a genuine posidrive socket? Aftermarket ones are dire!

[mjmallia]

Yes. Got the genuine socket from TPS. I was going to try the impact first when removing and see if I get lucky