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Offline TheBALDpuma

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Starting and EPC light
« on: October 25, 2024, 05:31:49 pm »
On two occasions now separated by a few days, I've gone to start my car and it's turned over loads before it's actually fired up. When it has fired up it runs fine but the EPC light is on. If I turn the engine off, and start again it's fired up fine and the light goes off.

Any ideas what's going on?

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Re: Starting and EPC light
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2024, 05:33:20 pm »
On two occasions now separated by a few days, I've gone to start my car and it's turned over loads before it's actually fired up. When it has fired up it runs fine but the EPC light is on. If I turn the engine off, and start again it's fired up fine and the light goes off.

Any ideas what's going on?
Have you got any means of scanning the car? Wild guess would be a low pressure fuel pump issue, as said needs diag running on it


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Re: Starting and EPC light
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2024, 05:49:18 pm »
I was thinking fuel pump too. Is that a big job?

No means of plugging it in I'm afraid, it will be a trip to the garage for diagnostics

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Re: Starting and EPC light
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2024, 05:51:05 pm »
It's accessible from under the rear seat the tank doesn't need to be removed to swap the pump.

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Re: Starting and EPC light
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2024, 06:01:22 pm »
Thanks - just watched a video and it looks a pretty easy job!

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Re: Starting and EPC light
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2024, 09:12:57 pm »
On further investigation I don't think it's the fuel pump. Mainly because it runs completely fine once it starts

Here is a video of the non start. When you turn the ignition on, it will sometimes make this ticking noise.  If it's making the ticking noise, the car won't start.  Sometimes it doesn't tick, sometimes it does for a few seconds, sometimes it does it for a few minutes.

When it ticks the fan turns on even from a completely cold start.

When the ticking stop I get a whine. And the engine will start.


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Re: Starting and EPC light
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2024, 08:09:51 pm »
From my experience, when you turn the ignition on and the fan turns on, it usually means some ECU issues. If you have a badly made map on the car or some ECU software error, the car refuses to start (it will crank), the epc and check engine light stay on and the radiator fan(s) turn on full blast.

The clicking you are hearing is the throttle body rapidly opening and closing, or just moving between 2 set positions.

Check wiring, check ecu I guess?
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Re: Starting and EPC light
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2024, 08:15:53 pm »
From my experience, when you turn the ignition on and the fan turns on, it usually means some ECU issues. If you have a badly made map on the car or some ECU software error, the car refuses to start (it will crank), the epc and check engine light stay on and the radiator fan(s) turn on full blast.

The clicking you are hearing is the throttle body rapidly opening and closing, or just moving between 2 set positions.

Check wiring, check ecu I guess?

Yeah I think that's the go to.. I am a little embarrassed that I may have mashed the wiring with the windscreen wiper linkage that I replaced a few days before I started getting problems  :sad1:

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Re: Starting and EPC light
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2024, 10:34:18 pm »
Hey, at least you have a lead now. Replacing the windshield wipers on these cars is a pain but if you wanna see real pain, try doing it on an Audi A4 B7. You either remove the ecu and it's case or you have a friend bend it and pray to god it doesnt break since it's a 20 year old plastic. You need to wiggle that sh*t around for at least 30 minutes to take it out but funny enough, it slides back in without issues  :signLOL:
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