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Re: Little help to put my mind at ease please - DV replacement
« Reply #60 on: April 27, 2010, 01:04:33 pm »
Sorry - yep 1 1/2 tonne should be fine.

You are only lifting one corner of the the car, not the whole car.
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Re: Little help to put my mind at ease please - DV replacement
« Reply #61 on: April 27, 2010, 04:12:20 pm »
Fitting is quite easy.  Remove NSF wheel and front of the wheel arch liner - the bit with the vent for the brakes (you will know it when you see it).

Just an important little point. I know the near side as being the side nearest the kerb. On a right hand drive car you'll need to take off the drivers side front wheel etc.

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Re: Little help to put my mind at ease please - DV replacement
« Reply #62 on: April 27, 2010, 08:59:40 pm »
Oops
drivers side OSF wheel.
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Re: Little help to put my mind at ease please - DV replacement
« Reply #63 on: April 27, 2010, 09:09:45 pm »
Haha, I was panicking for a while wondering where the f*ck it was!

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Re: Little help to put my mind at ease please - DV replacement
« Reply #64 on: May 04, 2010, 12:00:01 am »
Been reading the thread and got me thinkin too,mine (57 ed30 mapped) hisses aswell as the turbo is building up but I still get a lot of pull and a noticeable hiss when I release the accelerator could mine be split or is it natural for the noise, no it's already been touched on in the thread but never driven turbo before this one

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Re: Little help to put my mind at ease please - DV replacement
« Reply #65 on: May 04, 2010, 03:32:11 pm »
Been reading the thread and got me thinkin too,mine (57 ed30 mapped) hisses aswell as the turbo is building up but I still get a lot of pull and a noticeable hiss when I release the accelerator could mine be split or is it natural for the noise, no it's already been touched on in the thread but never driven turbo before this one

Eddy30, this is normal. Welcome to the world of turbocharged cars.

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Re: Little help to put my mind at ease please - DV replacement
« Reply #66 on: May 04, 2010, 03:33:35 pm »
Can anyone else confirm whether it would be a waste of time replacing a dump valve on an ED30???

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Re: Little help to put my mind at ease please - DV replacement
« Reply #67 on: May 04, 2010, 06:37:37 pm »
Thanks for the reply mate,slight bit of dissapoomtment though hehe was maybe hoping it wasn't runnin at full strength cos it's bloody fast as it is! Hehe. Interested in the reply to your question too

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Re: Little help to put my mind at ease please - DV replacement
« Reply #68 on: May 04, 2010, 09:26:34 pm »
Eddy on another point, if you would like the noise louder - try fitting a less restrictive intake system.

For example the ITG Maxogen Intake kit, which is basically a bit pipework and then an ITG filter on the end. Provides less air flow restriction and therefore can provide power increases - marginal nonetheless.

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Re: Little help to put my mind at ease please - DV replacement
« Reply #69 on: May 04, 2010, 11:49:15 pm »
Glad I read this! I've just had my GTi serviced and my mate noticed one of the intercooler pipes was split, different car now it's been replaced, but might have this checked out too.

What do you guys think of just putting a Forge DV on? This is my first turbo car too, so no idea what the difference is between a stock DV and an after market 1. Also can somebody tell me the price of a forge DV and I noticed you might need to service it, what does this involve?
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Re: Little help to put my mind at ease please - DV replacement
« Reply #70 on: May 05, 2010, 06:15:07 am »
Stock dv £40ish after discount. Forge ~£150. Search the forum or Forge web site for more info. 

No advantage with the forge as I can tell until you get to the higher stages of tuning. Stage 2+ etc.

So for the money and ease of fitting IMO everyone should be looking to replace their DV if they have any doubts. 
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Re: Little help to put my mind at ease please - DV replacement
« Reply #71 on: May 05, 2010, 11:03:51 am »
What was the reason for changing from a B to a D ?
The B is VERY weak and fails (mine did). There is a rubber diaphragm on the B version that splits after a while and you lose boost pressure. The D version uses a piston and is much stronger.
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I think there needs to be some clarity on the part numbers here.

06F 145 710 B had a black diaphragm > this was replaced by 06F 145 710 C which had an orange diaphragm > and these were all ultimately replaced by 06F 145 710 G (dunno what difference is).  These were all designed for the original 2.0 TFSI engine (in the Mk5 GTI, with the rubber timing belt).  These are all now NLA (no longer available) - and are replaced by the current . . . . .

06H 145 710 D.  Note the crucial bit, the H in the first three digits - this (a piston design rather than a diaphragm) was originally designed for the newer chain driven 2.0 TSI/TFSI as used in the Mk6 GTI (and others) - but has been decreed by VWAG as backwards compatible with earlier engines including our belt-driven donkeys.

This latter 06H variant is now all you can get - even if you were to specifically ask your stealer for say the 06F 145 710 G, you would not be supplied with this G version.  If someone was particularly keen on a G version, then the only legit way of getting one would be from either an independent, or places like GSF or ECP.

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Re: Little help to put my mind at ease please - DV replacement
« Reply #72 on: May 05, 2010, 11:04:46 am »
My Etka lists 06F 145 710 G for my car by the way, so is this a modified version of the D ?

Your ETKA needs updating.  :wink:
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Re: Little help to put my mind at ease please - DV replacement
« Reply #73 on: May 05, 2010, 11:06:00 am »
My Etka lists 06F 145 710 G for my car by the way, so is this a modified version of the D ?

"G" is a newer revision.

But the G version has been superceeded by the D version - albeit 06H prefix.  :P
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Re: Little help to put my mind at ease please - DV replacement
« Reply #74 on: May 05, 2010, 11:11:44 am »
so would be ever better to go fior that one then ?
is it worth only replacing if theres a problem

If you are competent enough to change it yourself - then go ahead, they are fairly cheap.

However, as usual - there is quite a bit of 'scare-mongering' regarding DVs - I've got a remapped 2006 GTI with nigh-on 40k on the clock - and my original C version is in perfect condition.  Thoroughly inspected the diaphragm under light - and it is as fresh as the day it was made.

And don't forget - the diaphragm versions can react much faster than the piston versions.  :wink:

ETTO and all that, though . . . .
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