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Re: NQS BBK A Not Quite So Big Brake Kit..With Install Pics
« Reply #315 on: August 10, 2011, 02:51:55 pm »
NQS BBK Fitting Kit comprises

Caliper Carriers Either Iron hub Variant for GTI or Alloy S3 Hub Variant.
HEL Braided Lines suitable for Porsche Calipers
Fine Threaded M12 Cap bolts for caliper mounting

The Kit price is

1  Fitting Kit 275
5  Fitting Kit 245
10 Fitting Kit 220

Its a difficult kit to machine as we need another pass to recess under the platform that the caliper sits on to clear the scruffy casting courtesy of VAG, Im also having to average the prices as the S3 Variant is significantly more expensive to produce as 65% of the billet blank ends up on the floor!

This kit in 5x100 would be PERFECT for a staged Polo GTI - its work in progress - if you order the calipers and a fitting kit with a deposit I'll get cracked on and get it finished, the TTRS boys are screaming for development work at the moment and the squeakiest wheel gets the most oil unfortunately.

2 Piece Discs assembled would most probably be aound 600 quid, its not a fast moving disc and the retail is 210.23 each plus VAT so not much left for bells and bolts after my discount.

So a quick review of a 2 piece setup

600 Discs
400 Calipers
40 Pad Fitting Kit
220 NQS Fitting Kit
?????  Pads

Personally I'd rather spend the money in this way ona more rounded front and rear setup

(assuming 10 people on the GB)

170 Machined J'Hook 312's
130 J Hooked rear 286 Discs
95 Rear DS2500 Pads
400 Calipers
220 NQS Fitting Kit
40 Pad fitting Kit
????? Front Pads - I'd reccomend Pagid RS4-2's or M1144's (Much cheaper but wear faster)

Dont forget the calipers need a small mod to widen the pad peg gap, they also need reversing.

If this goes ahead I'll happily do that work for FREE, the prices from Porsche also weren't for public consumption so I'll handle the purchase and supply the invoices on an open disclosure basis.

I'll also do some great pad prices - porsche pad prices are megabuck$ so we'll box clever.

Just need somebody to organise it, harvest say a 50 quid deposit from each person and I can get cracking shouldn't be hard over a couple of forums   :popcornsoda:

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Re: NQS BBK A Not Quite So Big Brake Kit..With Install Pics
« Reply #316 on: August 10, 2011, 04:18:51 pm »
Couple more pics







Will be Using J hooks for the road next time with RS4-2 pads when these are worn.
Very very interested in 2piece setup.  Will be doing S3 rears 1st.

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Re: NQS BBK A Not Quite So Big Brake Kit..With Install Pics
« Reply #317 on: August 10, 2011, 04:29:44 pm »
Looking good Mike, they should be getting settled around now.

The two piece disc will be coming in at around 5.7kg complete, new 312's are just inside of 10kg

So S3 Hubs, 2 piece discs, lightweight calipers, S3 arms....reckon thats probably good for 20-25kg per axle, its getting to the point where thats not only good for unsprung weight but its starting to help 1/4 times as well. One might argue thats going to help handling better than some V3's for a similar level of investment - dont know suspension though somebody will be along to comment soon

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Re: NQS BBK A Not Quite So Big Brake Kit..With Install Pics
« Reply #318 on: August 10, 2011, 04:36:28 pm »

Thanks mate :)

Braking at speeds upto 50mph feels really good.  Car feels more nimble when turning.

Haven't really had chance to do any 80 - 0 bedding in.

Would there be a noteable difference between the OEM textars & the RS4-2s?
 
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Re: NQS BBK A Not Quite So Big Brake Kit..With Install Pics
« Reply #319 on: August 10, 2011, 09:13:43 pm »
This brake kit is luring me in with the temptation of a lightweight 2 piece disc of awesomeness :drool:
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Re: NQS BBK A Not Quite So Big Brake Kit..With Install Pics
« Reply #320 on: August 10, 2011, 09:16:24 pm »
This brake kit is luring me in with the temptation of a lightweight 2 piece disc of awesomeness :drool:

We all know you can't resist! 

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Re: NQS BBK A Not Quite So Big Brake Kit..With Install Pics
« Reply #321 on: August 10, 2011, 09:23:37 pm »
This brake kit is luring me in with the temptation of a lightweight 2 piece disc of awesomeness :drool:

We all know you can't resist! 

I have to resist....I have a big turbo conversion weight reduction scheme to plan.  :innocent:
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Re: NQS BBK A Not Quite So Big Brake Kit..With Install Pics
« Reply #322 on: August 10, 2011, 09:27:52 pm »
This brake kit is luring me in with the temptation of a lightweight 2 piece disc of awesomeness :drool:

We all know you can't resist! 

I have to resist....I have a big turbo conversion weight reduction scheme to plan.  :innocent:

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Re: NQS BBK A Not Quite So Big Brake Kit..With Install Pics
« Reply #323 on: August 10, 2011, 10:04:35 pm »
Would there be a noteable difference between the OEM textars & the RS4-2s?
 


when cold:  more squeeking

when on track:  massively more bite


If you can't find 2-piece discs go for a set of Tarox next.  :smiley:
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Re: NQS BBK A Not Quite So Big Brake Kit..With Install Pics
« Reply #324 on: August 10, 2011, 10:09:42 pm »
Would there be a noteable difference between the OEM textars & the RS4-2s?
 


when cold:  more squeeking

when on track:  massively more bite


If you can't find 2-piece discs go for a set of Tarox next.  :smiley:


Adequate performance for daily use? What would be the best 'fast road' / daily use pad for the NQSBBK ?

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Re: NQS BBK A Not Quite So Big Brake Kit..With Install Pics
« Reply #325 on: August 10, 2011, 10:46:07 pm »
Would there be a noteable difference between the OEM textars & the RS4-2s?
 


when cold:  more squeeking

when on track:  massively more bite


If you can't find 2-piece discs go for a set of Tarox next.  :smiley:

Not necessarily 100% accurate, Pagid RS pads interface with the face of the disc in a fairly unique way, lots of success over on VAGOC with those who actually read the box...it in effect says dont put them on top of another compound and if you need to skim the disc.

You also need to bed them in correctly

If you do both they've actually got good road manners with a wide temp range so good from cold (even though they come with  dayglo leaflet that says TRACK USE ONLY!!!) JamieKip over thereis running them on the front with DS2500 on the rear and says they're OEM in terms of NVH

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Re: NQS BBK A Not Quite So Big Brake Kit..With Install Pics
« Reply #326 on: August 11, 2011, 10:34:16 am »
Don't mistunderstand me. RS4-2 work fine from cold and so will do for
daily use.

Noise is often an individual problem. Even my stock pads were squeeking
sometimes and so my DS Performance do. Same on a friend's GTI with DSP.
Another frind's Octavia RS is even much more squeeking when driving in
the City. He has Tarox discs and Pagid RS4-2 pads.

That doesn't mean they make noises in every car. But in the past years I've
learned one thing: the sportier (heat resistant) a pad is the louder it will be.

 :drinking:


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RS4-2 will be my next set of pads - sh.... on noises  :wink:
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Re: NQS BBK A Not Quite So Big Brake Kit..With Install Pics
« Reply #327 on: August 11, 2011, 12:07:26 pm »
"This kit in 5x100 would be PERFECT for a staged Polo GTI - its work in progress - if you order the calipers and a fitting kit with a deposit I'll get cracked on and get it finished, the TTRS boys are screaming for development work at the moment and the squeakiest wheel gets the most oil unfortunately."


Dave, i,ve sent you a pm regarding my interest in this kit, thanks


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Re: NQS BBK A Not Quite So Big Brake Kit..With Install Pics
« Reply #328 on: August 11, 2011, 01:17:54 pm »
I would be really interested in a group buy on this.

Unfortunately i dont think im clued up enough to run the GB.

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Re: NQS BBK A Not Quite So Big Brake Kit..With Install Pics
« Reply #329 on: August 23, 2011, 06:20:03 pm »

So how many people are now running NQS BBK?

What are the roundup of opinions?