bluetooth

[Tuffy]

Hi all
is it possible to retro fit bluetooth to my 05 Gti

Thanks guys

[Thor]

Yep you can there are various solutions from OEM as per link below to the various aftermarket solutions, lots of choice depending on what headunit you have and type of phone, check compatability

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-PREMIUM-bluetooth-RNS-510-RCD-mfd3-RNS510-ver-B-kit-/170463143814?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Mobiles_Accessories_RL&hash=item27b0652786 this is oem kit for use with the RCD510 and RNS510 head units, just use the search function as most of the systems have been installed and reviewed / discussed on here. 

[Tuffy]

Yep you can there are various solutions from OEM as per link below to the various aftermarket solutions, lots of choice depending on what headunit you have and type of phone, check compatability

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-PREMIUM-bluetooth-RNS-510-RCD-mfd3-RNS510-ver-B-kit-/170463143814?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Mobiles_Accessories_RL&hash=item27b0652786 this is oem kit for use with the RCD510 and RNS510 head units, just use the search function as most of the systems have been installed and reviewed / discussed on here. 

Thanks for that! mine is the billy basic head unit (not sure on model no) would this be ok?

[vRStu]

If you don't have an RNS510 then you'd really need Highline dash to use an OEM kit.

[pirelli@40!]

I'm also after a retro fit bluetooth but according to one website the OEM is not compatible with the RED DIS! Is that the case? My main issue is i want the mic fully integrated into the vanity light unit e.g. not visible. Also are there any details on installations (inc pics) that go through a DIY install? Found a few but i'm still not convince is that  straight forward. What's best OEM or Fiscon? Sorry, is that too many questions????

[Neimad]

I'm also after a retro fit bluetooth but according to one website the OEM is not compatible with the RED DIS! Is that the case? My main issue is i want the mic fully integrated into the vanity light unit e.g. not visible. Also are there any details on installations (inc pics) that go through a DIY install? Found a few but i'm still not convince is that  straight forward. What's best OEM or Fiscon? Sorry, is that too many questions????

There are versions of the OEM unit that work with the red dis -- version B I believe (there's a guy on eBay that sells them).  That said the OEM ones only work with certain phones as most (if not all, I think) use "RSAP" (remote SIM access protocol) to talk to the phone, which unfortunately not all phones support.

The FISCON kits work with almost any phone and can be firmware updated to support more very easily.  Main problem is the cost of them and the fact that the mic isn't very good compared to the OEM one (the FISCON unit only has a passive mic whereas the OEM unit has an active mic that works much better).  Finally it's also worth mentioning that the FISCON unit comes with a "free" dis add-in that shows MPH/KPH, oil temp, litres of fuel left in tank, etc... that's worth ~£100 alone, making the £350 asking price slightly more bearable.

[pirelli@40!]

Neimad mate, thanks for the post, sounds like the Fiscon icould be the way to go (?). Do you know what the DIY install is like? Are there any links you know of?

[Neimad]

Neimad mate, thanks for the post, sounds like the Fiscon icould be the way to go (?). Do you know what the DIY install is like? Are there any links you know of?

I don't know of any DIY docs but I would expect the FISCON kit comes with a manual (I'm guessing here).

That said, as far as I know it's just a case taking the head-unit out and attaching a new cable to the back of it that sits between it and the normal quadlock loom.  That cable also connects to the bluetooth box which you have to stash behind the stereo somewhere.  The mic will be the real problem to fit but that's dependent on where you want it and where it will actually work -- as mentioned I believe the FISCON mic isn't as good as the OEM mic and may not work so well from the interior light panel on the roof -- not sure if that's still the case though, it's worth looking in to.

[vRStu]

As above if, you can use an OEM setup with the 1Z0 xxx 729x part number.

729B will display on the red DIS but is now obsolete so getting them is harder.

729C, D or E (729E is the latest) will all work with a red DIS car but will not display on the DIS only on the RNS510 which isn't too much of an issue if you have an RNS510.  The current 729E seems to work with more phones now including good iPhone support.

The rSAP units are the Nokia built ones and not the 729x ones.

[mackit]

Am i right in saying that whether it is the OEM or the Fiscon bluetooth kit, the MFSW control to answer the call will work?

[Neimad]

Am i right in saying that whether it is the OEM or the Fiscon bluetooth kit, the MFSW control to answer the call will work?

Correct, although I had heard that the FISCON kit didn't work with the MFSW at one point but I believe that has been fixed since.

[vRStu]

You can normally recode the steering wheel controller so that the OEM units will work with the star button.

[pirelli@40!]

Has anyone used or had experience of a company called Sat Nav Systems? They supply a OEM bluetooth kit (see www.satnavsystems.com/vw-universal-bluetooth.html for details) that fully integrates with the RNS-510 and RED DIS (and displays additional info as mentioned elsewhere) and can also upgrade the mic so it's installed in the overhead unit. The down side is that they want best part of 600 notes for installation etc! They do offer a 3yr on-site warrenty but me thinks that's a little steep. Anyone got a view?

[SteveP]

^^ That's a Fiscon kit they are selling 

[pirelli@40!]

SteveP; Thanks for clarifying the kit but what about the price? Does it sound right? I've seen other suppliers installing Bluetooth for around the £ 500 mark which i thought was steep, though to be fair they didn't seem as good as this one (hidden mic, extra display etc).