Make a donation
« previous next »
Pages: [1] 2   Go Down

Author Topic: Power...where will it end?  (Read 3809 times)

Offline Hurdy

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 52
  • -Receive: 137
  • Posts: 7683
Power...where will it end?
« on: May 10, 2010, 03:03:52 pm »
When the Edition 30 originally came out, power was 227bhp. It was soon found to be basically a detuned version of the S3 engine, which had just over 260bhp. Then the tuners started to play and the new level became 305bhp. Developments progressed and each time the boundaries were set at a new high, tuners said that was that and no more. We are now at a point where a K04 car with no mods to the engine can lay claim to in excess of 370bhp, with similar torque.

My question is, without swapping the K04 turbo, how much bhp do we think it is possible to extract from the ED30, with uprated cams, valvetrain, hybridisation of the K04 etc?

Discuss! :smiley:
Logged
Golf R gone.

Offline Vick N

  • Always Involved
  • ****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 16
  • -Receive: 0
  • Posts: 150
    • Email
Re: Power...where will it end?
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2010, 03:15:07 pm »
Who would know better than you Hurdy lol

I am aiming to modify the car power wise keeping stock turbo and internals and if 370+ is the figure, I'd be more than happy!

Then it's diff time :)
Logged

Saint Steve

  • Guest
Re: Power...where will it end?
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2010, 03:41:36 pm »
227bhp FTMFW!!!! :laugh: :laugh:


 :signLOL:
Logged

Offline Rich

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 7
  • -Receive: 8
  • Posts: 1054
  • Buy Land, They Don't Make It Anymore
    • Carpet Underlay
    • Email
Re: Power...where will it end?
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2010, 03:49:53 pm »
I know im not intelligent when it comes to modding cars, but surely logic wise, anymore than 383bhp (which you have Hurdy) will put too much stress on the turbo ?

You also have bring reliability into this thread too :innocent:
Logged
~ Golf MK5 Pirelli ~ 36k Miles and continuing!

Offline Hurdy

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 52
  • -Receive: 137
  • Posts: 7683
Re: Power...where will it end?
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2010, 03:53:05 pm »
My car hasn't had ANY issues with reliability apart from one coilpack, which all cars can get. Never broken down. Some cars have had issues, but you can expect it when pushing the limits.
Logged
Golf R gone.

Offline owen lcr

  • Always Involved
  • ****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 2
  • -Receive: 6
  • Posts: 184
  • owen
    • Email
Re: Power...where will it end?
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2010, 04:00:32 pm »
i dont think it will be long before someone has broken the 400bhp barrier, if you have a hybrid KO4 with WMI aswell as Cams you are looking at in excess of 400bhp, as has been said this must be near the boundry of a failure of some sort but we are not going to know until the boundry has been crossed, i just hope its not me and also hope it is nothing MAJOR :sad1:
Logged

Offline Poverty

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 36
  • -Receive: 21
  • Posts: 1543
Re: Power...where will it end?
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2010, 06:16:57 pm »
the greeks have been claiming 400hp for a while now
Logged

Offline Janner_Sy

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 62
  • -Receive: 113
  • Posts: 5392
Re: Power...where will it end?
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2010, 06:19:57 pm »
thats possible but only with some sort of octane boosting effect such as WMI or even nitrous.  Wouldnt really want cams though, as i had them on my XR2i and the tick over was horrible
Logged

Offline RedRobin

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 380
  • -Receive: 442
  • Posts: 16627
  • BIALI Motorsport's Chief Horn Blower
Re: Power...where will it end?
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2010, 06:48:03 pm »
....

Well I can't really discuss K04 limits, but I do think it's rather what Kev @ Revo once said to me: "Robin, you just have to draw your own line in the sand and try not to cross it".

Also, personally I would always advise leaving some tolerance and head room rather than power-ing to the max. But I'm an older guy and am happy with what I got.
Logged


On facebook: https://www.facebook.com/robin.procter.50

Throbbin' Red Mk5 GTI DSG with too many mods to list - Have Fun but Safe Journeys!

Offline Hurdy

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 52
  • -Receive: 137
  • Posts: 7683
Re: Power...where will it end?
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2010, 07:05:45 pm »
Quote from: RedRobin on May 10, 2010, 06:48:03 pm
Well I can't really discuss K04 limits, but I do think it's rather what Kev @ Revo once said to me: "Robin, you just have to draw your own line in the sand and try not to cross it".

I like rubbing out the lines in the sand on a regular basis. :laugh:

If we all drew lines in the sand the human race would never get anywhere :wink:
Logged
Golf R gone.

Offline RedRobin

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 380
  • -Receive: 442
  • Posts: 16627
  • BIALI Motorsport's Chief Horn Blower
Re: Power...where will it end?
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2010, 07:12:05 pm »
Quote from: Hurdy on May 10, 2010, 07:05:45 pm
Quote from: RedRobin on May 10, 2010, 06:48:03 pm
Well I can't really discuss K04 limits, but I do think it's rather what Kev @ Revo once said to me: "Robin, you just have to draw your own line in the sand and try not to cross it".

I like rubbing out the lines in the sand on a regular basis. :laugh:

If we all drew lines in the sand the human race would never get anywhere :wink:

....I didn't say I've taken Kev's advice  :wink:. But, power-wise, I don't seek more for myself.
Logged


On facebook: https://www.facebook.com/robin.procter.50

Throbbin' Red Mk5 GTI DSG with too many mods to list - Have Fun but Safe Journeys!

Offline stealthwolf

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 306
  • -Receive: 291
  • Posts: 7834
  • ED30 No.1412
    • Email
Re: Power...where will it end?
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2010, 01:30:55 am »
450bhp. For about ten seconds. then kaput!
Logged

The GTI isn't just a machine. It's very much a living, breathing thing.

Offline DanGB

  • Won't Shut up.
  • *****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 6
  • -Receive: 12
  • Posts: 640
  • Different
Re: Power...where will it end?
« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2010, 10:10:26 am »
Well it all depends on which dyno you use really  :P
Logged
Seat Leon Mk2 TFSI sport 4WD sleeper - Breaking
Buld thread: http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,45377.0.html

Saint Steve

  • Guest
Re: Power...where will it end?
« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2010, 10:15:17 am »
Quote from: DanGB on May 11, 2010, 10:10:26 am
Well it all depends on which dyno you use really  :P
yes not like our accurate ones down south :grin:
Logged

Offline RedRobin

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 380
  • -Receive: 442
  • Posts: 16627
  • BIALI Motorsport's Chief Horn Blower
Re: Power...where will it end?
« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2010, 10:21:49 am »
....

Oh no! Not more willy-waving.  :rolleye:

[Ah, but it's a Cupra driver] :grin:
Logged


On facebook: https://www.facebook.com/robin.procter.50

Throbbin' Red Mk5 GTI DSG with too many mods to list - Have Fun but Safe Journeys!
Pages: [1] 2   Go Up
« previous next »