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[Saint Steve]

How long before the 'new lot' start blaming the 'old lot' when things don't go to plan! 

I think Mr Brown was better placed than anyone else to see us continue in the right direction away from this recession!

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[andrewparker]

The only good thing to come of this current fcuk up is that Cleg has got some of his top boys in, most notably Cable so let's hope they can pull it out of the bag.

At the moment the only senior position Clegg has negotiated is that of Deputy PM. George Osbourne as Exchequer? We're doomed.

[Richn83]

As mentioned above GB should have graciously stepped down earlier, he was use-less, and never had the charisma to pull off winning a cracker pulling contest .... I just hope this coalition works and we dont have to go through this all again in the next 6 months!

[gulfstream11]

Double income,no kids,smoker,drinker and drive a gas guzzler... Kinda screwed no matter who is in power. 

[Hedge]

Just to drag this up again. Spotted earlier.

[cmdrfire]

I'm more scared to see Cameron in charge than I am relieved to see Brown out. Gordon was handed a time-bomb that I think he managed quite well.

I just hope that Nick Clegg manages to keep some control over the Conservatives - I can be cautiously optimistic about that. We might see some sense (although given the decision that's effectively been made by the Tories to keep Trident* and for the Libdems to "abstain" from that vote I'm not sure how much sense we will see).

But remember what the previous Conservative government did: gut the heart out of this country and leave everything in the hands of the City.


*Trident replacement is a waste of money. Who are we to deter? The Soviet bear? North Korea? I'd much rather see all the money go into the conventional forces, particularly the Army and the RN.

[GTIjames]

handed a time bomb   

was he not chancellor during tony blair's entire term as PM - if he spent more time on the economy in those last couple of years rather than being obsessed with becoming PM and feuding with Blair, he might of been in a better position when he was finally gifted the job - instead he wet his pants and failed miserably...

im looking on the positive side of things, I did not want a coalition before the election and was rather sceptical, though they seem to have put a competent team together swiftly enough.

hopefully labour will spend the next few months fighting over who will take over their joke of a party so the new government can crack on and try and turn this mess around 

[cmdrfire]

How would we be in a better position? the recession happened because of Goldman Sachs and years of deregulation in both the US and the UK (admittedly continued by Gordon as chancellor, I'm not defending him, but I do think he handled the situation reasonably well). We could be in a much worse position; look at Greece, Spain, Ireland, or even the US for that matter.

Said time-bomb began when a bunch of quants on Wall Street figured out a way to make money for nothing (and your cheques for free).

[Janner_Sy]

The MPs on their first cabinet session have all agreed to a 5% pay cut and pay freeze,

can you guess what is coming next.

VAT 20%
fuel tax will probably go up again

[Poverty]

How would we be in a better position? the recession happened because of Goldman Sachs and years of deregulation in both the US and the UK (admittedly continued by Gordon as chancellor, I'm not defending him, but I do think he handled the situation reasonably well). We could be in a much worse position; look at Greece, Spain, Ireland, or even the US for that matter.

Said time-bomb began when a bunch of quants on Wall Street figured out a way to make money for nothing (and your cheques for free).

even without the recession, and long before the recession there was alot of discontent with the current government, and the government spending was out of control aswell.

[Janner_Sy]

on a side note, gold is at an all time high now.  luckily gordon rown never sold off loads at rock bottom prices.....on no, he did, my mistake.

[Gti Jal]

Fundamentally Brown ruined the UK economy. He built a false economic bubble based on:

1. Debt fuelled Govt. spending - with massive waste
2. Consumer Debt
3. Property inflation
4. A badly regulated financial sector.

Instead of taking his time with public service reform and the economy he knee jerked from one decision to the next.

He was presented with the problems as early as 2004 and continued to believe he was invincible.

I say this to those who think he had any ability what do you base your opinion on outside of gut feel / being Labour at heart?

I'm no Tory fan boy but lived through the 70's and saw what had to be fixed. The bottom line is we are at a historic tipping point, the Con Dems need to find the solution. I am over the moon that we have a coalition with Clarke and Cable lending weight. I wish Alistair Darling could be involved.

Eddie George called it right. The economy is so fuxxed that any government that has to fix it will be so unpopular they will be out of power for 30 years. I hope this is not the case, I care about this country.

As for Brown - I thought his speach was from the heart, but I loathe and despise the self centreed useless cxnt. If you want 7,000 words on his failings just ask.

[VC]

i did my bit, didnt vote, never have  

i do think the current power share is the way forward though and relieved brown is finally off the top  

[cmdrfire]

I say this to those who think he had any ability what do you base your opinion on outside of gut feel / being Labour at heart?

I ain't Labour, and I ain't never will be.

I say he did relatively well because despite having no manufacturing or industrial base, and a monumental debt, and crazy property boom that crashed, somehow the UK still managed to claw its way out of the recession, and avoid a Greece/Ireland/Spain type situation. Those countries are fooked.

I do hope that the Tory/Lib coalition works well. I don't agree with much of what the Tories or the Dems are saying (despite voting Lib Dem) but it seems that for the most part they have cancelled out each other's stupidity. Certainly the early indications are promising, and there are some decent decisions on Cabinet posts. Michael Gove was not made Home Secretary, which is a good thing. Vince Cable could be in quite a good position. So it's promising.

[Janner_Sy]

but it seems that for the most part they have cancelled out each other's stupidity. Certainly the early indications are promising,

thats my thoughts exactly.