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Re: VWRacing-KW-V3 Suspension....
« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2009, 10:24:30 pm »
Looks great mate and great post  :happy2:

Was that a New Beetle RSI in the background of one of the shots? Wicked car 4 wheel drive with the 3.2 out of the R32  :happy2:

....It certainly is! There's a whole lot more interesting toys I haven't posted pics of.


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Re: VWRacing-KW-V3 Suspension....
« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2009, 10:25:31 pm »
great write up  :happy2:, are vwracing in milton keynes then red robin?? 

I dont live far from there   :jumpmove:

....Yep - MK, the land of roundabouts!


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Re: VWRacing-KW-V3 Suspension....
« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2009, 10:27:26 pm »
Great Write up Robin  :happy2:

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Re: VWRacing-KW-V3 Suspension....
« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2009, 10:43:57 pm »
great write up robin and the ride height looks   8) i have found having to go 5 miles or less over a speed hump is worth it for the look and better handling when your out on the open roads.

 as for corner weighting I really wanted this myself but regal did not offer it, most places will charge extra for this and is very difficult to find a place which does, though as gaz said best way to set up coilovers

so thanks for tip robin, and those extra blue polly bushes look especially  :drool:

....When going to someone like VWR who have proven expertise, it makes sense to outline what you would like to achieve but give them the freedom and trust to do what they know best. My brief was "practical for road use and no extra tyre wear". If I find it too low I know I can go back to them and they'll re-adjust it, but I think I would have already discovered problems yesterday morning when I went out looking for them!

If you insist on overriding expert advice, that's when you can get problems. It's also why I would never attempt this myself, even if I had workshop experience - It's not the installation which benefits so much from skill but the suspension setup afterwards which is all-important and actually critical in achieving results.

I'm very, very surprised to hear that Regal don't offer corner-weighting - Afterall they ran the winning VW Racing Cup Mk5 GTI last season! I'm assuming that Regal themselves did all the race preparation on that car.

When you think about it logically, corner-weighting does help.



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Re: VWRacing-KW-V3 Suspension....
« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2009, 10:52:40 pm »
smashin write up RR, looks tops, and sounds like a top mod. Suprised you had it set that low to be honest, looks mint :happy2:

....Cheers, gaz :happy2:

I left it up to Mark - He knew I wanted it to be practical for fast road use and I trust his judgement.

Sure, there are places I can't go (like indoor carpark higher levels) but on Eurotunnel I can always go on the lower deck.


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Re: VWRacing-KW-V3 Suspension....
« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2009, 11:03:52 pm »
What have they done to that red and white Rocco Robin it looks

....I don't know the detail except that it's race prepared. The black one next to it is at strip-out stage and was supplied straight from the client as a new standard oem car.



^ This is the interior - I think you might describe it as slightly hardcore!

Dan got a better pic - He had a digital big Canon kit, I just had a small pocket FujiThingy : -



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Re: VWRacing-KW-V3 Suspension....
« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2009, 11:19:45 pm »
great write up robin and it's got me thinking of going to them for the diff doing

Mods yes but way too many to stick in this little box

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Re: VWRacing-KW-V3 Suspension....
« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2009, 11:28:36 pm »
great write up robin and it's got me thinking of going to them for the diff doing

....Well, I would certainly highly recommend them! They are about £50 more than others but very experienced.

And no-one better suggest asking for a group buy discount because they simply don't need it and it gets insulting. They stick to their original quotes and they give you a 200% job.


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Re: VWRacing-KW-V3 Suspension....
« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2009, 11:28:46 pm »
I wonder if JKM did this corner weight thing when I had Bilsteins put on.  I knew about it at the time and just assumed they would.

....I wondered that too.


They probably didn't  :grin: :grin: :grin:  Otherwise they'd told me and/or charged me.  I'm at JKM on Monday to get an S3 Intercooler fitted and Revo Stage 2+  :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:  I'll probably have two settings - one for when I want to take it easy with low boost and another for the track/enthusiastic driving.  Won't be able to exploit the power until I get an LSD sorted though.

Can't wait to get my Quaife, Brakes and Engine Mounts done in Feb/March  - that should finish the car off apart from ....

....Are you planning on going to VWR for that? Their own brakes are expected to be ready in a few weeks.
I'm going for their VWR engine mounts next.

I'm going to VWR for my Quaife, engine mounts and most probably brakes too... unless I can spend the money on brakes on a better set than they supply...   I rang another well-known tuner regarding the Quaife just to see what they would charge and although they were £300 cheaper than VWR for the whole job, I felt uneasy talking to the guy as he really didn't seemed that clued up and they're meant to be VAG specialists!  And no it wasn't JKM - they've been excellent so far.  

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Re: VWRacing-KW-V3 Suspension....
« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2009, 11:37:00 pm »
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£300 is a big difference! I went to VWR, JKM, and APS for quotes and there was only about £50 difference. I trust all those three.

DSG is more expensive than Manual Quaife - Mine is DSG.


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Re: VWRacing-KW-V3 Suspension....
« Reply #25 on: January 16, 2009, 09:08:53 am »
Absolutely first class write up.

Do you think the WALK kit has enhanced your diff any more, the poly bushes alone will give more control, but I'm interested to hear how the two compliment each other?

I did laugh with the string alignment job, I've seen something similar before and when it was stuck on a laser job at a later stage... it was bang on! You can't beat old school methods.

I have a firm belief (like you) thet you get what you pay for, sure VWR might charge £xx amount more, but they know what they're doing and you pay extra for the confidence. Some other tuners it just gets farmed out to the monkeys they have in the back on minimum wage and you just have to hope it was done right, a quick search on forums can provide plenty of examples of when they haven't.

In short, I love your car and I love your ethos to modding it. It sets a good example!
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Re: VWRacing-KW-V3 Suspension....
« Reply #26 on: January 16, 2009, 09:18:20 am »
And no-one better suggest asking for a group buy discount
lol , some muppet already did in a previous post  :wink: , too late

Agreed that something like the LSD should only be fitted by a place thats done it before, I dont fancy being the guinea pig for that fitment. Given my location, the only place closest that has fitted one is VWR.
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Re: VWRacing-KW-V3 Suspension....
« Reply #27 on: January 16, 2009, 09:27:54 am »
good write up red good to see VWR really look after there customers

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Re: VWRacing-KW-V3 Suspension....
« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2009, 09:53:16 am »
great write up rr, may b tempted to go for a few toys from them in the summer. would you mind taking me out in your car at santa pod meet? there are some really nice twisties 2mins from santa pod.

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Re: VWRacing-KW-V3 Suspension....
« Reply #29 on: January 16, 2009, 09:53:51 am »
i have sent VWR an email for the diff and a clutch doing  :happy2:

Mods yes but way too many to stick in this little box