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DSG or not DSG
« on: May 12, 2010, 08:52:20 pm »

Dismiss this as a retarded question but I just dont know...

The Cupra isnt available with DSG but other models of leon are.

Is it possible to retro fit Dsg to a non Dsg car???  I assume it would be costly if so

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Re: DSG or not DSG
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2010, 08:55:57 pm »
spek to monk. i think he retro fitted DSG into his when he swapped the ko3 engine for a k04

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Re: DSG or not DSG
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2010, 08:57:22 pm »
Yes it is possible i believe.  :happy2: Has Monk still not got a Ko 4 + Dsg engine knocking about for sale.  :happy2:

Probably cheaper to do the whole transplant if he has.  :smiley:

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Re: DSG or not DSG
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2010, 08:58:29 pm »
oooooh  :evilgrin: lol   

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Re: DSG or not DSG
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2010, 09:17:04 pm »
Monk doesn't have the DSG gearbox with the Quaife diff in anymore :innocent: :wink:
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Re: DSG or not DSG
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2010, 09:29:07 pm »

Think Im going to test drive a Dsg car and if i likee it will be the big mod with savings after next op tour. Was going to be a carbon frenzy but I'll have 6months in the sand pit to decide  :party:

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Re: DSG or not DSG
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2010, 09:37:01 pm »

Think Im going to test drive a Dsg car and if i likee it will be the big mod with savings after next op tour. Was going to be a carbon frenzy but I'll have 6months in the sand pit to decide  :party:

think about it mte, cameron said he would be doubling our Op allowance :jumping: :jumping: :jumping:   hopefully he'll be true to his word

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Re: DSG or not DSG
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2010, 09:38:38 pm »

Think Im going to test drive a Dsg car and if i likee it will be the big mod with savings after next op tour. Was going to be a carbon frenzy but I'll have 6months in the sand pit to decide  :party:

think about it mte, cameron said he would be doubling our Op allowance :jumping: :jumping: :jumping:   hopefully he'll be true to his word

Okay.  DSG transplant AND Carbon frenzy  :party: :party: :party:

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Re: DSG or not DSG
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2010, 10:00:35 pm »
Just for info guys, the Seat Leon Cupra cup car has DSG box in, so must be a goer, they also run standard blocks etc.
There are race teams all over europe and the uk with these cars, may be worth trying to get hold of them for info, i also believe the DSG boxes they run are with a map giving stronger launch control function and pit limiter mode as well.  :party:

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Re: DSG or not DSG
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2010, 01:44:35 am »
It will depend on the loom they use in the Cupra. If the loom doesn't have the functional capacity for the DSG built in then it would mean a new loom = costly. I'll look into this tomorrow for you Mike. :happy2:
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Re: DSG or not DSG
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2010, 12:43:57 pm »

What makes up the system?

ECUs? Looms? Is it heavily intergrated with the engine ecu?  Best to buy engine box & wiring complete from a tfsi dsg car?

Quick search brought this up

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GOLF-GTI-30TH-2-0T-TURBO-GEARBOX-KPV-AUDI-DSG-TFSI-2009-/170472533867?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item27b0f46f6b#ht_2305wt_1165

I estimate id get £1500 for my Tfsi That should buy a dsg ready motor (if needed) and £800 for a box.  Alot of cost I think would be extra electronics, programming, labour & associated parts (gearstick & centre console, steering wheel, flappy paddles etc etc)

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Re: DSG or not DSG
« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2010, 04:00:41 pm »
Get an ED30 DSG Mike, part ex the Cupra and swap all the kit onto it :happy2:

I guess then it wouldn't be unique though :sad1:
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Re: DSG or not DSG
« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2010, 04:24:40 pm »
Get an ED30 DSG Mike, part ex the Cupra and swap all the kit onto it :happy2:

I guess then it wouldn't be unique though :sad1:

x2  .. but a Pirelli maybe if you want to be a 'little' different if that bothers you...  :happy2:
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Re: DSG or not DSG
« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2010, 04:42:20 pm »
I cant imagine they will have a different wiring loom from the FR to the Cupra, so would imagine a TFSI and DSG should slot in nicely.

Do Audi do a 7 speed transverse DSG that can handle some decent power?  That would be an interesting car if you were doing the change.
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