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Retuning the ED30
« on: May 14, 2010, 08:28:37 pm »
Everyone talks about how the ED30 is a detuned S3 lump. Has anyone retuned back into an S3? And then remapped it?

Any links would be welcome.
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Re: Retuning the ED30
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2010, 09:02:59 pm »
^^^^
You been at those sweeties again, Jaz?

Why detune (demap) and then remap again?
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Re: Retuning the ED30
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2010, 09:10:06 pm »
Indeed why? Unless I don't understand the question? Same engine so have it 230bhp, 265bhp or 300bhp stage one?!
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Re: Retuning the ED30
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2010, 09:15:01 pm »


Drop the bag and step away from the stall!
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Re: Retuning the ED30
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2010, 09:28:31 pm »
Quote from: RedRobin on May 14, 2010, 09:02:59 pm
^^^^
You been at those sweeties again, Jaz?

Why detune (demap) and then remap again?
Not detune but upgrade the internals and remap.
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Re: Retuning the ED30
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2010, 09:33:11 pm »
Its the same apart from the intercooler.
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Re: Retuning the ED30
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2010, 09:33:20 pm »
The internals are pretty much the same Stealth.

Obvious differences are cams, compression ratio (I think), intercooler and map.
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Re: Retuning the ED30
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2010, 09:40:51 pm »
compression ratio is the same, and I think the cams must be.
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Re: Retuning the ED30
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2010, 09:11:31 am »
Out of interest is the DSG gearbox in an S3 and a GTi/ED30 exactly the same?  I assume the clutch is upgraded for the 4-wheel drive S3.

Am i right in saying that the DSG gearbox found in VWs, Audis, Seats, etc. is an Audi originated product?
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Re: Retuning the ED30
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2010, 11:56:28 am »
Quote from: Hedge on May 14, 2010, 09:33:20 pm
The internals are pretty much the same Stealth.

Obvious differences are cams, compression ratio (I think), intercooler and map.

Quote from: DanGB on May 14, 2010, 09:40:51 pm
compression ratio is the same, and I think the cams must be.

I was under the impression that the cams were different and the compresion ratio on the S3
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Re: Retuning the ED30
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2010, 02:16:32 pm »
The Ed30 engine is NOT the same as the S3 engine . . . this has been thrashed to death, and proven before.
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Re: Retuning the ED30
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2010, 02:50:56 pm »
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Re: Retuning the ED30
« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2010, 03:58:58 pm »
Quote from: Teutonic_Tamer on May 15, 2010, 02:16:32 pm
The Ed30 engine is NOT the same as the S3 engine . . . this has been thrashed to death, and proven before.

Could you link me to one of these threads please :smiley:
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Re: Retuning the ED30
« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2010, 05:59:13 pm »
Quote from: Nasir on May 15, 2010, 03:58:58 pm
Quote from: Teutonic_Tamer on May 15, 2010, 02:16:32 pm
The Ed30 engine is NOT the same as the S3 engine . . . this has been thrashed to death, and proven before.

Could you link me to one of these threads please :smiley:

....How much time have you got to read it all? All weekend?

Both 'sides' post some very convincing arguments why they are each correct.

As far as I know, the DSG box of tricks (and therefore clutches) is the same in each of the GTI and Ed30. S3? - I dunno.
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Re: Retuning the ED30
« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2010, 08:24:59 pm »
Somebody who works for VW/Audi must know the conclusive answer.
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