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Re: am i ready for the ring
« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2010, 04:53:43 pm »
the miltek is only in your face when you plant the pedal...Ill have a rear bar to run harneses from as i think they look gash from the seat bolting points.

I'm not sure there's many safe places to mount a harness bar on a Mk5, you'd need to be looking at welding one in or doing some very serious calcs. As a rough guide, think hitting a stationary object (car, barrier etc) at 30mph would mean a 75KG person is putting about 2100KG of force on that bar.... you'd going to need it to be good!

....Exactly. A harness bar needs to be a structural part of a roll-cage. A removable half-cage can suit a Mk5 without interfering with practical everyday use of the front seats etc.

Alternatively, with appropriate front seats, a Schroth Quik-Fit harness makes a big difference.


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Re: am i ready for the ring
« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2010, 04:58:15 pm »
You getting a cage RR?

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Re: am i ready for the ring
« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2010, 05:02:34 pm »
You getting a cage RR?

:laugh: What gives you that idea?  :grin:


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Re: am i ready for the ring
« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2010, 05:04:05 pm »
the miltek is only in your face when you plant the pedal...Ill have a rear bar to run harneses from as i think they look gash from the seat bolting points.

I'm not sure there's many safe places to mount a harness bar on a Mk5, you'd need to be looking at welding one in or doing some very serious calcs. As a rough guide, think hitting a stationary object (car, barrier etc) at 30mph would mean a 75KG person is putting about 2100KG of force on that bar.... you'd going to need it to be good!

....Exactly. A harness bar needs to be a structural part of a roll-cage. A removable half-cage can suit a Mk5 without interfering with practical everyday use of the front seats etc.

Alternatively, with appropriate front seats, a Schroth Quik-Fit harness makes a big difference.

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Re: am i ready for the ring
« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2010, 05:13:24 pm »

....Exactly. A harness bar needs to be a structural part of a roll-cage. A removable half-cage can suit a Mk5 without interfering with practical everyday use of the front seats etc.

Alternatively, with appropriate front seats, a Schroth Quik-Fit harness makes a big difference.

....Yeah, but all that means is that I've been curious how practical a cage might be for someone with a Mk5 Golf.



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Re: am i ready for the ring
« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2010, 05:19:31 pm »
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Re: am i ready for the ring
« Reply #21 on: May 16, 2010, 05:21:58 pm »
Doesn't have to be part of a cage, Robin - it just has to be absolutely fit for purpose and on some structural metal.
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Re: am i ready for the ring
« Reply #22 on: May 16, 2010, 05:36:06 pm »
^^^^
Cheers, Mike  :drinking: Definitely needs to be fit for purpose otherwise it's pointless and could even be very dangerous. Says he who once rolled a car and had to duck to avoid a loose magnum (yes, a biggie!) of champagne which was on the back seat. Was early one christmas morning on black ice.


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Re: am i ready for the ring
« Reply #23 on: May 16, 2010, 05:38:24 pm »
^^^^
Cheers, Mike  :drinking: Definitely needs to be fit for purpose otherwise it's pointless and could even be very dangerous. Says he who once rolled a car and had to duck to avoid a loose magnum (yes, a biggie!) of champagne which was on the back seat. Was early one christmas morning on black ice.

I did not know you could get champagne magnums now.  :chicken:  My favourite is the dark chocolate closely followed by the double caramel.  :happy2:

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Re: am i ready for the ring
« Reply #24 on: May 16, 2010, 05:39:08 pm »
i was goin to ask vw racing to sort a rear bar for me...not wantin a cage or half..

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Re: am i ready for the ring
« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2010, 05:40:24 pm »
i was goin to ask vw racing to sort a rear bar for me...not wantin a cage or half..

....A good idea - They know the Mk5 structure inside out - Literally!


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Re: am i ready for the ring
« Reply #26 on: May 16, 2010, 06:01:50 pm »
yeah i spoke with mat and simon and there goin to look into it...

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Re: am i ready for the ring
« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2010, 09:26:12 pm »
Also, remember that it can be dangerous to have straps without a cage. There was that incident last year where a guy in a MINI died - he had got a 6-point harness fitted, but with no rollbar. In the accident, he rolled it and the seat collapsed down, catching him in the harness and killing him.

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Re: am i ready for the ring
« Reply #28 on: May 16, 2010, 09:29:20 pm »
caging a road car will piss you off . my mk1 does my head in
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Re: am i ready for the ring
« Reply #29 on: May 16, 2010, 11:26:26 pm »
defo dont want a full cage....might have to get my thinking cap on  :rolleye: