Forge twintercooler

[RedRobin]

The cost of the kit you would think the silicon hoses would be specific to that engine.
 

....Logical and ideal from a customer pov, but you say that without appearing to know that much about the practical economics of relatively small production runs which a manufacturer like Forge or their specialist supplier has to allow for.

Consider all the R&D costs and then the production costs of what is a low volume product designed and built to a high standard using high standard materials and then tell me it's expensive.

I think there are no less than 5 different 2.0T FSI platforms and hence sets of sizes to cater for.

[joesgti]

It took me and Mat longer to fit that pipe, than it did to fit the S3 cooler and twinter together.  

Why didn't you call Joe to help out...      

ooooooo   my cooler is just fine, god knows where those extra bolts went!  

[MAT ED30]

that was after i cut some off the buggers  i ended up cutting lots off 

[RedRobin]

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That doesn't look good, Mat - It looks collapsed.

[MAT ED30]

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That doesn't look good, Mat - It looks collapsed.

yep it did but after lots of chopping it looked lots better  but as said you should not need to do this as this is a kit for a car that should fit with no messing about  for the the IC is great but its the pipes that bring the product down 

[bacillus]

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That doesn't look good, Mat - It looks collapsed.

True but did he get the correct S3 twintercooler hoses or are those hoses meant for the standard GTI twintercooler?

[MAT ED30]

yes mate 100% asked for s3 ic hoses and we even asked if thats what they sent and they did

[GTIjames]

regal failed miserably when attempting to fit my twintercooler, had to take it to jkm in the end and the pipes still looked a little kinked, but worked well  

if you want hard pipes this offering from VF looks the business, but not cheap at c£1000

[bacillus]

I know it's a bit late in the day but can you remember if the hoses were numbered 296 and 297? Those are the numbers on the S3 hoses.

[MAT ED30]

no idea on numbers and that VF kit looks more like it as it uses the oe fixings

[CarrG]

The cost of the kit you would think the silicon hoses would be specific to that engine.
 

....Logical and ideal from a customer pov, but you say that without appearing to know that much about the practical economics of relatively small production runs which a manufacturer like Forge or their specialist supplier has to allow for.

Consider all the R&D costs and then the production costs of what is a low volume product designed and built to a high standard using high standard materials and then tell me it's expensive.

I think there are no less than 5 different 2.0T FSI platforms and hence sets of sizes to cater for.

Come on I understand economies of scale.

We are talking hoses here not cores how much R&D is required?

And as you say there are not that many platforms.

[GTIjames]

if you have a kink in the pipework this is what forge recommend...

[owen lcr]

I think it looks like agood bit of kit aswell but agree that it could be better with specific cut hoses.

If i were to fit a twintercooler to my leon cupra   (that has S3 cooler installed already) what setup would i need? 

i.e. Cupra twintercooler with S3 hoses and couplings or am i totally wrong,  i know its a golf forum but no-one on seat had fitted a twintercooler to an S3 intercooler yet

thanks

[RedRobin]

The cost of the kit you would think the silicon hoses would be specific to that engine.
 

Come on I understand economies of scale.

We are talking hoses here not cores how much R&D is required?

And as you say there are not that many platforms.

....Your post emphasised the cost of the whole kit, not just hoses - Hence my response.

And no, I'm saying that 5 platforms is quite a lot.

[RobH]

The cost of the kit you would think the silicon hoses would be specific to that engine.
 

Come on I understand economies of scale.

We are talking hoses here not cores how much R&D is required?

And as you say there are not that many platforms.

....Your post emphasised the cost of the whole kit, not just hoses - Hence my response.

And no, I'm saying that 5 platforms is quite a lot.

Other companies have managed to get the hoses the right lenght i mean it carnt be that hard you just measure the lenght required on the 5 different varients and cut them

If they've done sooooo much R&D then they'd know the lenghts anyway.

Not disputing it been a good product because it is but its just cutting a bit of silicone and for £500 youd expect that to be done.