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Re: new linear remap for REVO??
« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2010, 12:55:33 pm »
the way I read it is that it makes the pedal more accurate to how much you actually press it, and not how the power is delivered.

So basically now when you depress the accelerator by 50% you get 50% of available power. The cars are standard currently dont respond to throttle inputs accurately, which can make modulating the throttle tricky at times, and can end up as a on off switch

....That's as may be but it's pretty academic. Your brain's coordination will automatically adapt to whatever reaction your right foot actions.

Not really, as its nothing, nothing nothing, then all of a sudden you get power, hence why this map has been made. You have to depress the accelerator too much to make any progress, and the modulation window is much too small to get the perfect power input.

Pretty much the reason I removed the SC map on mine after 150 miles, and never mapped again. 

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Re: new linear remap for REVO??
« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2010, 01:00:32 pm »
you're all missing the point..... we haven't changed anything in the tuning! it's a linear throttle setup so the throttle pedal behaves like a cable actuated throttle rather than a stock gti etc throttle map where say for example 25% throttle inputted by the user is seen as a 33% load request......

it's like for like 25%=25% rather than stock where 25%=33%

the tuning is the same!

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Re: new linear remap for REVO??
« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2010, 01:02:22 pm »
you're all missing the point..... we haven't changed anything in the tuning! it's a linear throttle setup so the throttle pedal behaves like a cable actuated throttle rather than a stock gti etc throttle map where say for example 25% throttle inputted by the user is seen as a 33% load request......

it's like for like 25%=25% rather than stock where 25%=33%

the tuning is the same!

yep this is what I was trying to explain!  :signLOL:

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Re: new linear remap for REVO??
« Reply #18 on: May 24, 2010, 01:08:36 pm »
Ahh got it now

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Re: new linear remap for REVO??
« Reply #19 on: May 24, 2010, 01:43:31 pm »
I guess you get used to the way the power is delivered. If there is no go faster benefit, I probably wont bother as I am happy with the way it is at the moment.

Also, I would be concerned that I preferred it the way it was and wanted it swapped back  :signLOL:

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Re: new linear remap for REVO??
« Reply #20 on: May 24, 2010, 02:09:08 pm »
I'll ask what the situation is if you want it back.
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Re: new linear remap for REVO??
« Reply #21 on: May 24, 2010, 02:12:24 pm »
This sounds really interesting especially if it reduces the slight lag feel when first pressing the pedal. The pedal has always felt disconnected to the revs for me, Yes we all learn to adapt to what we have but this sounds like a great benefit.  :jumping:

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Re: new linear remap for REVO??
« Reply #22 on: May 24, 2010, 02:19:13 pm »
^^^^
Well, I know that some other remaps can be 'off-off-off-ON!' but I've always found Revo1 and Revo2 very linear and never felt any lag.

So, Revo Carl, is there any point if you already have a Revo remap?


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Re: new linear remap for REVO??
« Reply #23 on: May 24, 2010, 02:23:32 pm »
Not to sure how you could describe Stage 1 as linear Robin, granted stage 2 is but again, that is not what its about its the connection before the delivery.  :happy2:

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Re: new linear remap for REVO??
« Reply #24 on: May 24, 2010, 02:43:42 pm »
^^^^
I guess my foot/brain has simply become used to the delivery and I don't find anything to criticise about it. The worst remap I've experienced is the MTM - Horrific on-off and consequently very poor driveability.

Yes, Revo2 is slightly more 'linear' than Revo1 but their stage 1 is hardly lacking.

So, what's the cost of this new linear Revo map if you already have Revo2?


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Re: new linear remap for REVO??
« Reply #25 on: May 24, 2010, 03:00:21 pm »
It's only for K04 Cars that are Stage2+ and Stage 3 & Stage 4 cars (presuming this means Big Turbo?)

I asked Kev Hall about K03 and as yet its not available

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Re: new linear remap for REVO??
« Reply #26 on: May 24, 2010, 03:03:59 pm »
It's only for K04 Cars that are Stage2+ and Stage 3 & Stage 4 cars (presuming this means Big Turbo?)

I asked Kev Hall about K03 and as yet its not available

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....Aha! Now that makes much more sense! Power is much more in yer face on bigger stage cars and theoretically (to me) such throttle shortfalls may be more evident.


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Re: new linear remap for REVO??
« Reply #27 on: May 24, 2010, 05:32:11 pm »
 :grin:  check out RR on his defence of all his mods.  Put this way, i have driven REVO k03 cars at all the stages from stage 1 up to the stage 3 conversion.  There is that pause before delivery, and you probably havent noticed as you may not have driven many other cars with different maps, i have and the REVO surge is more noticable than others, possibly exasperated by the throttle % input/output. 

granted even if they have only changed this throttle input %ratio, but if it makes it drive like a cable operated throttle it can only be a good thing. 
It would surely give you more control over the car, make it easier to feather the throttle mid corner etc etc, all for the sake of maybe having to depress the throttle further at times. 

me personnaly, i think this would be the map i would go for, especially for track work

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Re: new linear remap for REVO??
« Reply #28 on: May 24, 2010, 05:37:26 pm »
:grin:  check out RR on his defence of all his mods.  Put this way, i have driven REVO k03 cars at all the stages from stage 1 up to the stage 3 conversion.  There is that pause before delivery, and you probably havent noticed as you may not have driven many other cars with different maps, i have and the REVO surge is more noticable than others, possibly exasperated by the throttle % input/output. 

granted even if they have only changed this throttle input %ratio, but if it makes it drive like a cable operated throttle it can only be a good thing. 
It would surely give you more control over the car, make it easier to feather the throttle mid corner etc etc, all for the sake of maybe having to depress the throttle further at times. 

me personnaly, i think this would be the map i would go for, especially for track work

.... :grin: Not intending to be defensive - But by sharing my personal view, even if wrong, it challenges and brings out more info - A good thing for all.

You're right, Sy, I have less experience of different remaps and have got very used to and comfortable with mine. What you say makes great sense and I am interested in this latest Revo product.

It's perhaps not unlike their DSG remap inasmuch that it's a further enhancement.

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Re: new linear remap for REVO??
« Reply #29 on: May 24, 2010, 05:41:26 pm »
exactly.

another thing they could maybe do which would top off an excellent product would be to stop the ECU interupting you when you left foot brake.
shark performancee have a race version of their maps which is the same map but with the above ecu function disabled allowing you to left foot brake
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The Race feature offers the ability to left-foot brake without the annoyance of the ECU automatically cutting engine power. This can be particularly useful for trackdays and autotests or for advanced drivers who prefer more control over their driving experience.