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Whats needed to upgrade to K04 Turbo
« on: June 04, 2010, 03:02:53 pm »
Hi All,

Am wanting to try put together a list of items needed to upgrade the power on my GTi, the ~250bhp just isnt enough for me and im really missing having more power.
Can people let me know whats needed to get more power, presumably the best and easiest route is to go down the KKK 04 turbo route?
The other thing, i know people say the Ed30 has a stronger bottom end etc, but what is the standard GTi lump safe to handle?

So based on that i'll assume i need the following:

KKK04 Turbo
Injectors - S3 or Ed30
Is a new EM required for the KKK04 or will it fit the standard manifold?
Intake modified
Better IC
Uprated HPFP

What else is worth doing or needs doing as i want to try start collecting bits.
With this kind of setup i assume this will then start knocking on the door of low to mid 300 bhp

Thanks all
Ant

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Re: Whats needed to upgrade to K04 Turbo
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2010, 03:05:10 pm »
Remote re-circ valve.
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Re: Whats needed to upgrade to K04 Turbo
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2010, 03:22:40 pm »


Thats what you need to go from K03 to K04  :happy2:

You would benefit from a better IC S3 cooler is ideal.

You will also need a K04 CAI of some description.

With all that you would be looking around 320ish bhp and 300+ lb/ft
« Last Edit: June 04, 2010, 03:25:23 pm by vRS Carl »

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Re: Whats needed to upgrade to K04 Turbo
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2010, 03:24:27 pm »
 :jumping: how much for all that?

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Re: Whats needed to upgrade to K04 Turbo
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2010, 03:24:54 pm »
one of the mods should get that stickied i reckon. 

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Re: Whats needed to upgrade to K04 Turbo
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2010, 03:27:03 pm »
:jumping: how much for all that?

You would be looking at around £2500-2800 fitted if you bought all new parts.

You could knock around £1k off that if you can pick up a good second hand turbo for around £500

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Re: Whats needed to upgrade to K04 Turbo
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2010, 03:28:08 pm »
i was tghinking off doin this aswell but decided it would be cheaper 2get an S3 or an ED30  :signLOL:


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Re: Whats needed to upgrade to K04 Turbo
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2010, 03:28:59 pm »
k04 power and delivery is also way better than k03, altyhough id say from my experience that the k04 converted cars dont seem as strong as the k04 engines, but who cares, you'll still be gaining 40Hp+ over the maximum you'll get on a k03 car at stage 2+

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Re: Whats needed to upgrade to K04 Turbo
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2010, 03:34:18 pm »
i was tghinking off doin this aswell but decided it would be cheaper 2get an S3 or an ED30  :signLOL:

it might work out cheaper to buy a second ed30/cupra/s3 engine for 1500 quid, and then sell your engine to claw back that cash, then the mods themselves will be pretty much paid for.

this will give you stronger internals, a lower compression ratio etc

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Re: Whats needed to upgrade to K04 Turbo
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2010, 03:37:37 pm »
any ideas were i could get one from ????  :embarrassed:


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Re: Whats needed to upgrade to K04 Turbo
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2010, 03:38:50 pm »
There is an ED30 engine for sale on the forum :P

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Re: Whats needed to upgrade to K04 Turbo
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2010, 03:38:59 pm »
monk on here was selling his with all the mods reqd for stage 2+ including the remapped ecu.  not sure if he sold it?? maybe PM him, alternately you need to go on ebay and the net for VAg dismantlers and nreakers yards

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Re: Whats needed to upgrade to K04 Turbo
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2010, 03:43:09 pm »
ok cheers dude  :happy2:


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Re: Whats needed to upgrade to K04 Turbo
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2010, 03:56:56 pm »
I was following his FS thread of that engine and the ebay auctions but the thread on here has gone and its no longer listed on ebay so it might be sold now. I was wanting to see if it went down in price much more or not
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Re: Whats needed to upgrade to K04 Turbo
« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2010, 05:00:51 pm »
Statllers can do engine swaps and they already have around 3 or 3 ED30/S3/TT-S engines.

I think they charge around £3 to £3.5k including GIAC software, fuel pump etc.
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