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Re: Driving me mad...brake squeal on Tarox 10 pots
« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2010, 12:09:27 am »
Changes the mass of the caliper and thereby its natural resonant frequency therefore eliminating squealing and squeaking (under the conditions in which they were previously occuring).

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Re: Driving me mad...brake squeal on Tarox 10 pots
« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2010, 08:21:09 am »
porsche do something similar, by adding weight to the actual pad.

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Re: Driving me mad...brake squeal on Tarox 10 pots
« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2010, 09:50:56 am »

porsche do something similar, by adding weight to the actual pad.


....But of course I expect well considered and beautifully engineered like only Porsche can do.  :notworthy:


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Re: Driving me mad...brake squeal on Tarox 10 pots
« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2010, 11:15:03 am »

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Re: Driving me mad...brake squeal on Tarox 10 pots
« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2010, 03:17:46 pm »
I had emailed Tarox as well to see if we can figure out a solution to the problem and this is the email that they sent me:

Hi Alex,
 
We have found that the 345mm kit using a single piece discs with the F2000 pattern are proving to be uncomfortably noisy for road customers. We are in the process of rectifying this problem. The first course of action that seems to be working so far is to change the discs from F2000 to G88. TAROX are also developing new mounting brackets from steel rather than alloy as there is reason to believe the alloy is resonating the noise. The steel brackets have not been completed but if you would like to try the G88 discs please let me know.
 
Again I apologise for the delay, hope to hear from you soon
 
Kind Regards,


What do you think? Should I change the discs in the hope that this may work or change both the disc and the pads (to the same ones that Hurdy suggested)?
Alex

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Re: Driving me mad...brake squeal on Tarox 10 pots
« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2010, 05:05:31 pm »
Oh Alex, I have 2 piece discs. I didn't realise yours were one piece ones :ashamed:  (shows you shouldn't always assume!)

From memory someone on here had the TAROX 10 pots with the single piece discs and these also squealed. They ended up going for 2 piece discs.
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Re: Driving me mad...brake squeal on Tarox 10 pots
« Reply #21 on: June 04, 2010, 07:37:34 pm »
Oh Alex, I have 2 piece discs. I didn't realise yours were one piece ones :ashamed:  (shows you shouldn't always assume!)

From memory someone on here had the TAROX 10 pots with the single piece discs and these also squealed. They ended up going for 2 piece discs.

Oh right. I thought that you had F2000s as well, I couldn't find any information on the Tarox site about whether the discs were one or two piece at all. I take it the G88s are two piece?
Hopefully between the 3 of us (me, Tarox and Awesome) we can find a solution.
Alex

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Re: Driving me mad...brake squeal on Tarox 10 pots
« Reply #22 on: June 04, 2010, 10:52:38 pm »
F2000's and G88's can both be 1 or 2 piece brakes :happy2:
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Re: Driving me mad...brake squeal on Tarox 10 pots
« Reply #23 on: June 05, 2010, 10:45:05 am »
Ordered some of those 3M anti squeal shims yesterday as I have the same problem on the standard disks and pads.

Disks and pads look fine so thought i would give them a go. Tried numerous hard stops and it doesn't go away.

Will let you know how i get on with them.
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Re: Driving me mad...brake squeal on Tarox 10 pots
« Reply #24 on: June 05, 2010, 10:52:32 am »
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Funny but, although my AP's don't squeal (or very rarely), I quite like the sound.


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Re: Driving me mad...brake squeal on Tarox 10 pots
« Reply #25 on: June 05, 2010, 04:58:21 pm »
Hmm, kinda know what you mean there, Robin. When coming off from a session on track and the brakes are stinking hot, there's a satisfying chip back from them to let you know you've been doing it right.
Sideways yo!

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Re: Driving me mad...brake squeal on Tarox 10 pots
« Reply #26 on: June 05, 2010, 05:00:50 pm »
Oh, on a side note - how can suggesting you spend more money be an acceptable resolution to a problem? I want them swapping to the alternative discs for free, if they're what's at fault and the manufacturer acknowledges this (as seemingly they do).
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Re: Driving me mad...brake squeal on Tarox 10 pots
« Reply #27 on: June 05, 2010, 05:06:27 pm »
Hmm, kinda know what you mean there, Robin. When coming off from a session on track and the brakes are stinking hot, there's a satisfying chip back from them to let you know you've been doing it right.

....That's the one! And usually also accompanied by that sweet smell of hot discs and brake dust. In this fine sunny weather spell with my sunshine roof and windows open, I've even been enjoying the squeals and smells after spirited B-road sessions. It's good to know the car is alive.


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Re: Driving me mad...brake squeal on Tarox 10 pots
« Reply #28 on: June 05, 2010, 06:11:01 pm »
Oh, on a side note - how can suggesting you spend more money be an acceptable resolution to a problem? I want them swapping to the alternative discs for free, if they're what's at fault and the manufacturer acknowledges this (as seemingly they do).

I will not be happy going down that route. Like I said hopefully we can work something out. Got some of the anti shim pads through the post so going to get them added too.
As for the noise, I do know what you and RR mean and I would agree with you but when you pop round to the shops or work then its rather annoying  :mad:
Alex