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Re: what do u think of this remap??
« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2010, 08:09:40 am »
Why is it still a turd though,  If you by a Mk5 golf and put a 3.2 engine in, it stops being a golf and becomes a boat.  :grin:

I will get me coat. Only joking big fella.

No TC it becomes a fridge. Not a fast fridge but a NICE fridge that sounds like your favourite beer, nicely chilled, being poured into a chilled glass by dusky maidens.

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....Just one dusky maiden would be satisfying!  :laugh:

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Re: what do u think of this remap??
« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2010, 08:13:43 am »

You have two different types mate. The Generic map is what the likes of Revo, BF, GIAC etc use. Or you can have a custom map which is built more around your car.


....In the case of Revo it might be described as a 'generic' map but surely its feature of being able to fine tune the Fuel/Boost/Timing settings then makes it adaptable to your individual car.


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Re: what do u think of this remap??
« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2010, 08:53:30 am »
i recently had my gti re-mapped i read and read and read before deciding who to do the work. for every firm out there youll find a negative comment from some one no one is perfect, im very happy with my re map cost £300 and they came to my home to do it. with the offer of a free rolling road check whenever im near their base.

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Re: what do u think of this remap??
« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2010, 11:26:08 am »
Brilliant Hedge  :congrats: :signLOL:
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Re: what do u think of this remap??
« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2010, 11:26:23 am »
This is a basic information post and not directed at any paticular company, wether mentioned in this post or not.


This is one of my favourite subjects, having been in the engine management industry for 10+ years 90% of the stuff on the internet about ECU mapping makes me chuckle.

The biggest issue at the moment is people buying tools on ebay for a few hundred quid, making a website and claiming to be an 'ecu mapper' when all they are doing is copying and pasting cheaply bought software into peoples ECU's with no development, testing or real idea of what they are doing. Just take a look at these links, you can buy files for most cars for a few euros:

http://ucables.com/ref/ECU-MAPS
http://www.chiptuning-files.net/Chiptuning/chiptuning.html

Are these files any good? chances are, the people buying files wont know how to look at the file to see if it is infact even a map file,  and if they are paying a few Euros for it then thers no chance it has had any development work, or testing. But they will gladly buy this file, write it into your ECU (usually parked outside your house armed with nothing more than a laptop) and  dissapear with your hard earned cash.

Then theres the whole issue about 'custom maps'. The fact is that theres very few people in the industry that can actually make a custom map correctly. Anyone that offers a custom map should have their own dyno testing facility, and the car should constantly be tuned and tested, then retuned, then tested etc.... so that you can follow the rule of getting a base level of the parameter that you are tuning, changing this parameter and then re-testing to see the effect of the change. I had a customer wanting a dyno test last week that had a 'custom remap' done outside his house for £150, the customer seemed delighted that the guy had completed this 'custom' map in just 25 mins and that the car felt loads better to drive. The dyno showed the map to be exactly what I had imagined, they had literally changed just 1 map (fuel pressure) and although the car had gained power from standard it was extremely 'peaky' and extremely smokey (it was a diesel).

After looking at the map for the customer we realised that the harware and software number of the file used wasnt even a match for the ECU fitted to the car! So all that had been done was the good old 'copy and paste' method. After checking these ECU identifications, as I expected the 'tuned' file was actually from a completely different car. Was there anything 'custom' about this remap? well, yes. they had customised his ECU with another cars file, so in a way it was custom to his car, but is that what people expect with a custom remap? I think not and most would agree with me but by putting the word custom infront of the word 'remap' the general public will think that its somehow better.

will continue in another post....

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Re: what do u think of this remap??
« Reply #20 on: June 07, 2010, 11:39:44 am »
Heres the best advice I can give when looking for a remap and what to ask:

1. Do they write their own software? if the answer is no, we email it to someone else to modify etc.... walk away.
2. If they do write their own software they WILL have dyno facilities so ask to see some power graphs of identical cars.
3. What testing will be done before and after the remap?
4. If it is generic i.e Revo, will the car be datalogged and checked, and retuned? it should be, no 2 cars are identical.
5. Is the company VAT registered with insurance and a registered business premises with a landline phone number?


Follow these basic steps and you wont go far wrong.  :happy2:

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Re: what do u think of this remap??
« Reply #21 on: June 07, 2010, 11:43:16 am »
PDT great first post

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Re: what do u think of this remap??
« Reply #22 on: June 07, 2010, 11:45:50 am »
Sound advice PDT thank you for the great post.

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Re: what do u think of this remap??
« Reply #23 on: June 07, 2010, 11:53:52 am »
You've got a car worth thousands of pounds and you're p*ssing about over the difference of a couple of hundred quid?

Buy cheap, realise it's crap, buy what you should have bought in the first place - costs you twice as much. Or, buy a new engine when it grenades.
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Re: what do u think of this remap??
« Reply #24 on: June 07, 2010, 11:55:19 am »
You've got a car worth thousands of pounds and you're p*ssing about over the difference of a couple of hundred quid?

Buy cheap, realise it's crap, buy what you should have bought in the first place - costs you twice as much. Or, buy a new engine when it grenades.

Come on Mike....don't sit on the fence :laugh:
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Re: what do u think of this remap??
« Reply #25 on: June 07, 2010, 12:06:37 pm »
PDT great first post

First? thats my 134th  :P

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Re: what do u think of this remap??
« Reply #26 on: June 07, 2010, 12:08:47 pm »
custom code has 40% off at the mo , the best and the cheapest , no brainer for me  :happy2:

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Without even scrolling down, I knew you'd be the first response to this  :grin:

I agree with Mike - buy cheap, buy twice and possibly a new engine as well for good measure.
Only 250.1bhp - but with that noise, who cares?

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Re: what do u think of this remap??
« Reply #27 on: June 07, 2010, 12:11:26 pm »
Well, some people I just don't get, Hurdy  :laugh:

Like when road tax went up, some clown had just bought a Range Rover a few months earlier and then went about complaining they had to sell it taking a £5k loss because they didn't want to pay a couple of hundred pounds more a year.

People who scrimp on stuff are usually the ones who don't bother declaring it to the insurance too.
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Re: what do u think of this remap??
« Reply #28 on: June 07, 2010, 12:13:55 pm »
Well, some people I just don't get, Hurdy  :laugh:

Like when road tax went up, some clown had just bought a Range Rover a few months earlier and then went about complaining they had to sell it taking a £5k loss because they didn't want to pay a couple of hundred pounds more a year.


Amen to that.

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Re: what do u think of this remap??
« Reply #29 on: June 07, 2010, 02:47:48 pm »
@PDT:
Great post confirming what I already believed  :drinking:

I did a lot of research before I chose Revo and did most of my hardware mods first. I didn't remap until over 20k miles. I also researched which Revo agent to use and went to JKM because they have a Dyno-Dynamics rolling road and of their knowledge of the 2.0T FSI. The social aspect of a rolling road meet is secondary.. The primary reason is another opportunity to check my car's health. JKM are a 2-hour drive away for me but I don't think twice about it.

Whenever I've had a problem, turbo for example, or added an important mod such as the Twintake, we've been able to fine tune Revo's F/T/B settings to accommodate and look after the car.
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