Make a donation

Author Topic: Brake feel  (Read 4390 times)

Offline LouCyffer

  • Won't Shut up.
  • *****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 36
  • -Receive: 63
  • Posts: 875
Brake feel
« on: June 20, 2010, 02:27:58 pm »
Hi guys, new to the forum, and the Golf GTI. I've come from Imprezas, and the one issue I have with my GTI is brake feel, or rather, the lack of it. Ok, I've been used to big ol' Bremos on the STi, but I find I can't feel the grip through the pedal like I could with the Scooby. There's plenty of stopping power, but no feel.

Now, I don't want to start down the path to the Darkside, modifying brakes etc. I'd like to know views about standard brake feel. For the record, I have an 08 DSG, with 15k on the clock. The pads are fine if a bit squealy at times (OEM, plenty of life left) despite having them out and cleaning the pad surfaces. My next step is fluid change, then after that..??
Black 2008 5 door GTI. Leather, DSG, ipod prep, 18" Monzas. Retrofitted: Cruise, PDC, RNS510, 729 Skoda Bluetooth (thanks SteveP), MFSW buttons (thanks MortyGTTDi), Armrest & vents, covered cupholder, Highline (thanks Kalu), Polar FIS+ (thanks Richn), Reversing camera (thanks MortyGTTDi)

Offline Truckie

  • Always Involved
  • ****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 14
  • -Receive: 18
  • Posts: 409
    • Formula Hot Laps
Re: Brake feel
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2010, 04:41:02 pm »
Hi mate, i would go for an OEM fluid change and new Oem pads. My car feels a lot nicer to drive after the work was carried out, smoother and more feel.
I am told with DSG/auto the pads are prone to glazing, and i believe a little fade under extreme track use, this could be inneficient standard brake calipers or muppets at the wheel or both  :signLOL:.

Hope this helps, no doubt someone else will be along to help shortly, or verbally kick my face in for my suggestions haha  :jumpmove:

Offline RedRobin

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 380
  • -Receive: 442
  • Posts: 16627
  • BIALI Motorsport's Chief Horn Blower
Re: Brake feel
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2010, 05:02:47 pm »
.
VAG (Volkswagen Audi Group) cars are well known for their poor servo feel. Achieving a better pedal feel and response depends how far you want to go and spend on modding, a good aftermarket big brake kit being the obvious solution.


On facebook: https://www.facebook.com/robin.procter.50

Throbbin' Red Mk5 GTI DSG with too many mods to list - Have Fun but Safe Journeys!

Offline Janner_Sy

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 62
  • -Receive: 113
  • Posts: 5392
Re: Brake feel
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2010, 05:08:40 pm »
im changing my brakes this month for a few track days before i get a Big brake kit in the autumn.  getting new discs all round, ill be fitting pagid fast road/track pads, and braided hoses along with some motul RBF600 fluid.  im pretty sure there will be a marked increase in pedal feel, especially as mine havent been bled for a while.

there is the option of getting the tyrol brake bushings, which replace the soft bushes and should give additional feel
http://www.tyrolsport.com/index.php?p=product&id=124&parent=64

Offline LouCyffer

  • Won't Shut up.
  • *****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 36
  • -Receive: 63
  • Posts: 875
Re: Brake feel
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2010, 05:34:34 pm »
Hi mate, i would go for an OEM fluid change and new Oem pads. My car feels a lot nicer to drive after the work was carried out, smoother and more feel.
I am told with DSG/auto the pads are prone to glazing, and i believe a little fade under extreme track use, this could be inneficient standard brake calipers or muppets at the wheel or both  :signLOL:.

Hope this helps, no doubt someone else will be along to help shortly, or verbally kick my face in for my suggestions haha  :jumpmove:

Thanks Truckie. The glazing usually comes from low speed brake dragging on DSG/auto boxes. Precisely why I pulled the pads & cleaned the faces. I'm not going to modify in any way as braking power is fine, the feel issue is just a niggle. Anyway, I'm due a service fairly soon so I'll have a chat with the local service dept, they're very helpful.
Black 2008 5 door GTI. Leather, DSG, ipod prep, 18" Monzas. Retrofitted: Cruise, PDC, RNS510, 729 Skoda Bluetooth (thanks SteveP), MFSW buttons (thanks MortyGTTDi), Armrest & vents, covered cupholder, Highline (thanks Kalu), Polar FIS+ (thanks Richn), Reversing camera (thanks MortyGTTDi)

Offline DaveB@Vagbremtechnic

  • Trader - 2014
  • Just look at my post count
  • *
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 2
  • -Receive: 130
  • Posts: 1315
    • Vagbremtechnic.com
    • Email
Re: Brake feel
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2010, 05:38:00 pm »
I used the tyrol sport bushing kit on my mk4 - questionable results really, no percievable difference and they need looking after

Offline stealthwolf

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 306
  • -Receive: 291
  • Posts: 7834
  • ED30 No.1412
    • Email
Re: Brake feel
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2010, 12:59:13 am »
Ever since I bought my GTI, I've harped on about how the brakes are crap at anything above 50mph.

The GTI isn't just a machine. It's very much a living, breathing thing.

Offline Top Cat

  • Top cat
  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 171
  • -Receive: 335
  • Posts: 8196
  • Almost Jacamo
Re: Brake feel
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2010, 07:26:38 pm »
Ever since I bought my GTI, I've harped on about how the brakes are crap at anything above 50mph.

Thats just because you cant drive very well.  :scared: :signLOL:

Offline LouCyffer

  • Won't Shut up.
  • *****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 36
  • -Receive: 63
  • Posts: 875
Re: Brake feel
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2010, 08:38:21 pm »
Maiiow! Saucer of milk to Table Three, TC! :smiley:
Black 2008 5 door GTI. Leather, DSG, ipod prep, 18" Monzas. Retrofitted: Cruise, PDC, RNS510, 729 Skoda Bluetooth (thanks SteveP), MFSW buttons (thanks MortyGTTDi), Armrest & vents, covered cupholder, Highline (thanks Kalu), Polar FIS+ (thanks Richn), Reversing camera (thanks MortyGTTDi)

Offline stealthwolf

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 306
  • -Receive: 291
  • Posts: 7834
  • ED30 No.1412
    • Email
Re: Brake feel
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2010, 10:31:08 pm »
 :booty:

The GTI isn't just a machine. It's very much a living, breathing thing.

Offline the bruce

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 322
  • -Receive: 100
  • Posts: 1591
    • my GTI
Re: Brake feel
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2011, 10:41:51 pm »
Anyone using the Tyrol sport brake stiffening kit on a Mk.V ??

 :smiley:
« Last Edit: July 26, 2012, 12:23:03 am by the bruce »
"You get what you pay for."

Offline Tfsi_Mike

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 241
  • -Receive: 309
  • Posts: 10222
  • Go Large or Go Home
    • Tfsi Mikes Money Pit AKS / TTE / RTech St2+ Cupra
  • My Ride: http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,32721.msg402587.html#msg402587
Re: Brake feel
« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2011, 10:44:06 pm »
Anyone using the Tyrol sport siffening kit on a Mk.V ??

 :smiley:

+1

Offline rich83

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 165
  • -Receive: 802
  • Posts: 13444
    • MK5 Golf GTI
  • My Ride: https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=ovkhv98v9hso68qaec1iovjfma&/topic,19740.0.html
Re: Brake feel
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2011, 10:45:15 pm »
I would put money on them to make zero difference... like dave says 'no percievable difference'!

Offline the bruce

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 322
  • -Receive: 100
  • Posts: 1591
    • my GTI
Re: Brake feel
« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2012, 12:25:11 am »
To me they really made a noticable difference.  :evilgrin:

 :drinking:
"You get what you pay for."