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Re: M-Flash superchip
« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2010, 03:43:26 pm »

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Re: M-Flash superchip
« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2010, 04:04:11 pm »
When i saw the first 2 posts this morning, i was about to reply asking if it was spam, but thought it best not to, but now i kinda wish i had lol

Where is the proof of this magical Stage 1 60bhp map? Have you got an RR graph? Or does it just feel 60bhp quicker cos i'd love a butt dyno that can measure so well  :popcornsoda:
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Re: M-Flash superchip
« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2010, 04:05:20 pm »
I did a lot of research into this company before I bought their M-Flash product in the new year.Like Scopes I also spoke personally with Jason armed with some probing questions gleaned from various posts from this excellent forum.
I was totally assured and purchased.

I have,nt advertised the fact purely on the basis that I paid nearly half the price a major tuner is offering and did,nt want the "get what you paid for" quote,(which I'm of the opinion any member who does quote that is only looking after my back).

I understand TC when asking scopes to stop advertising an unknown company to members, it is unknown on here and thats spot on TC for protecting the membership.
I,ve known about this company for over 2 years and the cars that have used them,one of which was the red polo gti that joined us last year at santa pod.That had an R32 owner scratching his head wondering what the hell was in there.. :signLOL:

I joined the recent seatcupra.net rolling road along with Jonno and JPC...  3 runs 260bhp.
This is more than "major" tuners are stating from a stage 1 I know..Jason when asked quoted a "nice 250".. Maybe the rollers were out.

I,m happy with it and fully understand members comments,like I said,its not sour grapes just good guys watching out for us tight arses.

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Re: M-Flash superchip
« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2010, 04:12:12 pm »
Just a little info from the 'inside'

M-Flash is a generic flash tool that is made by a company called Alientech. You buy 50+ units at a time and get your own company stickers to glue on the front. Its a good tool, simple to use but they have their drawbacks on some vehicles.

The tools are not locked to any paticular company in most cases meaning that the software you can write to the ECU could be bought from anywhere, as long as its an open binary coding.

On a personal opinion, the OP of this post probably has 235-240bhp in reality, I have tuned, mapped and tested lots and lots of stage 1 200bhp TFSi's over they years on various dynos and never seen more than 250ish, but I am always open to be corrected, just because I cant do it, doesnt mean that someone else cant.


What scares me is that these tools are using files that have been emailed about from tuner to supplier and then back to the customer, no datalogging, no testing, no on-car development etc.... I would reccomend that the OP gets their car to someone with VAGCOM that can datalog the intake air temps, requested and actual boost pressures, timing pull and most importantly the EGT's (exhaust gas temps) and fuel rail duties as if it is really making 260bhp as quoted then I bet EGT's are sky high!  

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Re: M-Flash superchip
« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2010, 04:42:16 pm »
I,m sure one of the skoda chappies said shark performance use the same box.
VRSsy,whats sharks stage one quote?.

PDT.. Its a done thing,first chance I can its getting Vagcommed and thumbs up for the above post.

I,m finding my graph out tonight and posting it up for the experts.

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Re: M-Flash superchip
« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2010, 04:53:58 pm »
Glad to hear it.

Personally I would prefer that this had all been done during the remap process rather than having a generic file flashed to the ECU and then left it to me to work out if its all working OK. This can lead to problems, i.e say you find that you have zero timing pull and want a few more degrees added or the requested boost is too low, surely the customer shouldnt be left to find this out and be expected to rectify this themselfes, but you get what you pay for  :happy2:

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Re: M-Flash superchip
« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2010, 05:00:32 pm »


Hi PDT

Just been on your website and noticed you have an offer on for us cash strapped members of £195

Is this for the Golf GTI ??

Thanks in Advance

While your on the the best GTI forum, get your wife to peruse my.

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Re: M-Flash superchip
« Reply #22 on: June 28, 2010, 05:04:59 pm »
Hi,

This offer covers small engined diesels only I am afraid. i.e 1.9 tdi MK4 golfs / 306 HDI's etc...

Our basic price for a stage1 200bhp TFSi is £299 inc dyno testing and on-road datalogging

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Re: M-Flash superchip
« Reply #23 on: June 28, 2010, 05:08:42 pm »


Thats still V good !
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I ll call you this week to organise a little visit !


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Re: M-Flash superchip
« Reply #24 on: June 28, 2010, 05:23:25 pm »
I,m sure one of the skoda chappies said shark performance use the same box.
VRSsy,whats sharks stage one quote?.

I,m finding my graph out tonight and posting it up for the experts.

they quote 240 Hp which is exactly what my car made at the last rolling road day.  she made 24)hp @ 5000rpm then flattened out until 6250rpm.  torque was 270Ibft between 3-3.5k rpm.  tailed off abit though, hopefully the intake will cure that a bit more with some more air flow

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Re: M-Flash superchip
« Reply #25 on: June 29, 2010, 07:00:18 am »
I,ve just read abz001 entry on the inters thread.He quotes a simple stage one from shark giving 257bhp. :confused:

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Re: M-Flash superchip
« Reply #26 on: June 29, 2010, 08:44:45 am »
she has the same map as me, so do you really think there is a 17H difference, i very much doubt it, its a different rolling road, and as a result will never give the same output, although upto about 5k mine and hers are pretty much identical before i get heatsoak and power dies off.

most of the guys with the shark performance map have all had the same results as mine pretty much, so what your seeing is either a very good car, or dyno lottery. 

Dont get hung up on figures, realistically stage 1 will give 235-245Hp.  they can quite easily make more power, but then you wil be pushing high EGTs, and timing etc,  cars making higher outputs, miht not necessarily be faster on the road either as thy can be peaky in their output. 
« Last Edit: June 29, 2010, 08:47:20 am by vRSy »

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Re: M-Flash superchip
« Reply #27 on: June 29, 2010, 11:43:05 am »
Heres my Graph... I agree your point on the figures..So reckon its 240 to 245 which is standard for a stage 1 so I,m happy with my map.

Unless you guys see any problem here.....  :popcornsoda:


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Re: M-Flash superchip
« Reply #28 on: June 29, 2010, 12:26:45 pm »
Just out of curiosity, I am guessing that graph was done on the same day as the infamous Seat Cupra dyno day?

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Re: M-Flash superchip
« Reply #29 on: June 29, 2010, 12:53:39 pm »
Correctomundo dude.. :signLOL:

I,m guessing it was a fubar day..If its any help I went on before Jay in his S3.