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Forge CatchTank System - Review....
RedRobin:
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Non Fluro Hoses (yes - but then VW use N/F hoses all over the breather system on the GTI - seem to last fairly well)
Ordinary Jubilee Clips - sorted by £8 worth of OEM clips.
Smaller tank - BSH Larger variant available from BSH/Dubtek (as per the recent huge GB) for the same cost.
No level check - BSH has easy level check available - Dipstick level check on larger variants - simples.
One huge plus is the way the BSH is emptied in situ.......... Very handy.
I do agree with the use of plastic elbows etc, but it is a few pound to buy brass versions from a plumbers. Forge outlets on the breather plate look to have very small diameter.
To bring the BSH 'perceived lower standard' up to the perceived 'standard' of the forge is going to cost £20? then you stick the rest (circa £200) towards some of Shell's finest. the forge variant does look very well made, but not £200+ better, value for money I think BSH wins hands down.
I know where my money would be spent, and as ever this is just my opinion.
:happy2:
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.... :happy2: At the risk of getting into a lot of detail [T_T style!], I agree that the BSH is very good value for money but at not quite the extent of cost differential of the £200+ you state.
Non Fluoro Hoses - OEM isn't always best and can often be improved for longevity.
OEM clips are painted steel and quickly show signs of corrosion and you need to buy a special tool to undo them safely without potential injury! VAG are now changing their OEM clips AFAIK.
BSH's equivalent size tank system costs £190 in the US to buy singly (not via a huge group buy). Add UK tax and shipping?
BSH level check is good but slightly less convenient than Forge's sight-glass [I'm getting pedantic here!].
Forge tank can be emptied in situ too - The fluoro hoses are very flexible. However, I would recommend removing and cleaning any catch tank every time you empty it to get rid of all the gunk and keep the functionality tip top.
But don't get me wrong, the BSH offers an adequate cheaper alternative. I had a BSH system, sold it and 'lost' money, and I was happy to pay much more for what I personally much prefer. More than one professional mechanic has, totally unprompted, stated what a difference in quality and fitment. Forge's washscreen filler is a bonus but has to be priced for.
As I said before, it's good for the consumer that we have a range of alternatives :happy2: :drinking:
Teutonic_Tamer:
--- Quote from: RedRobin on June 29, 2010, 12:48:22 pm ---WHY HAVE ONE?
Excess crankcase pressure is vented from the crankcase through the PCV system, where it is drawn into the intake manifold and returned by the engine. This recirculated air contains aerated oil from the crankcase which is burned by the engine.
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That is incorrect. A correctly functioning PCV system will separate out the oil (including oil 'mist') - returning the oil to the sump, and just whiffy air to be burnt.
--- Quote from: RedRobin on June 29, 2010, 12:48:22 pm ---Some (not all, I'm told) turbocharged engines, especially when performance modified, can draw significant amounts of oil into the engine through VAG's oem PCV system.
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Again, considerably over-egging the pudding. It certainly could not be described as significant!
--- Quote from: RedRobin on June 29, 2010, 12:48:22 pm ---THE OEM PCV:
The 2.0T FSI engine comes with a closed PCV valve which obviously functions but as with most oem factory components it is designed and manufactured to restrictive rules and criteria and which can be improved by replacing with aftermarket components.
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As do ALL engines from ALL manufacturers. And on standard engines, the OEM system is perfectly fine (providing you use decent fuel and high quality oils).
--- Quote from: RedRobin on June 29, 2010, 12:48:22 pm ---
^ Intake valve from stripped 2.0T FSI engine with oem PCV after xx,000 miles.
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That pic needs considerably more explanation. What fuel was used? What oil was used? Was the engine modified? How does that compare to an old skool manifold injected valve? You will be well shocked by the answer to the latter!
RedRobin:
^^^^
@ Sean aka T_T:
I think it's extremely good that you add what is either your opinion or your expert knowledge to a thread such as this. However, I'll leave it to others if they want to debate or discuss the details further on this particular subject.
:drinking:
Teutonic_Tamer:
--- Quote from: RedRobin on September 01, 2010, 02:50:42 pm ---^^^^
@ Sean aka T_T:
I think it's extremely good that you add what is either your opinion or your expert knowledge to a thread such as this. However, I'll leave it to others if they want to debate or discuss the details further on this particular subject.
:drinking:
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That's fair enough - but in your original post, there are some fundament technical errors - which ought to be highlighted.
kevinm:
--- Quote from: RedRobin on June 29, 2010, 12:48:22 pm ---
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Why is there only 2 rubber blanks provided when there are 3 nipples?
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