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Re: Blue Bullet DRL - Version 2 (OEM Style)
« Reply #60 on: August 17, 2010, 05:28:29 pm »
Just took this pic to show what i mean.

This is my DRL's only in the garage


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Re: Blue Bullet DRL - Version 2 (OEM Style)
« Reply #61 on: August 17, 2010, 07:16:34 pm »
Wow those look really good. If only I could get them on the GTi without them looking like aftermarket cr*p. :happy2:

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Re: Blue Bullet DRL - Version 2 (OEM Style)
« Reply #62 on: August 17, 2010, 10:47:02 pm »
Hello chaps,

I played around with the wiring without fitting the DRLs this evening. I had a different take on the wiring picture you put up earlier, Carl...same idea but a mirror image of your diagram. I am looking at the connector on the offside EDIT: nearside lamp which may explain it though  :wink:

This one goes like:

   9  7 5 3 1
(                 ]
  10 8 6 4 2

1  -Black
3 - Brown (thin)
5 - Brown
7 - Brown
9 - White/grey

2 -Brown/blue
4 -blank
6 - YELLOW/BLACK
8 - Black/white
10-Black/grey

I am talking about an Octavia like Carl's but I believe they are the same.

So, to the point.....


These DRLs can be switched off when the headlights are switched on using the yellow wire on the DRLs:

To cut a long story short, and after a bit of trial and error with a multimeter and then temporarily wiring in the DRLs, connecting the yellow wire to position 6 (yellow/black) will kill the DRLs when the main headlamps are switched on. Vice versa, the DRLs will re-illuminate when going back to sidelights or switching all lights off.

I could not get the DRLs to switch off with the sidelights only.

This tallies up with what I found with the multimeter....

1 - is the switched live. Connecting the DRL red here will switch the DRLs on when the key is turned to ignition on / car is started as mentioned previously. It read 12v with ign on and 0v otherwise.
6- is the headlamps as above
8 - is full beam (but we don't want to wire the DRL-off to that)

...but I couldn't find a 12V out from the sidelights (only 0.5V at position 9 but certainly could not find a full 12v source from anything other than switched live with sidelights activated and a 10v at position 2). Similarly, going to 'real world wiring', touching the yellow DRL wire to all the other connection points failed to switch them off other than position 6 (no problem) and position 2 (which seemed to activate a weak attempt at the windscreen washer pump when touched causing a 'WTF moment' and rsulting in that idea getting the boot!!).

I could bang on about what voltages I picked up with parking lights, indicators etc. but it is all irrelevent - In summary (unless having the headlamp unit connected starts affecting things through the CAN-BUS or something) the only option is that the DRLs will be auto-on with the ignition by connecting the red to the switched live at position 1; will be auto-off with the main lamps lit (manually or via 'Auto lights' setting with you posh GTI owners, I guess  :wink:) by connecting DRL yellow to the yellow/black at position 6. They don't seem to be affected by the sidelight voltage. This has been confirmed with the DRLs wired in. Or you could ignore the DRL yellow all together and have them on all the time and be a bit saucy like Carl  :drool:.

Cheers,
Dave
« Last Edit: August 18, 2010, 09:27:03 am by muckipup »

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Re: Blue Bullet DRL - Version 2 (OEM Style)
« Reply #63 on: August 17, 2010, 10:57:08 pm »
Thanks Dave.

Will try that on mine tomorrow :happy2:

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Re: Blue Bullet DRL - Version 2 (OEM Style)
« Reply #64 on: August 17, 2010, 11:18:56 pm »
Thanks Dave.

Will try that on mine tomorrow :happy2:

No worries - was re-editing as you replied so hope it makes sense...I've over-done the 'happy juice' tonight  :drinking:

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Re: Blue Bullet DRL - Version 2 (OEM Style)
« Reply #65 on: August 17, 2010, 11:26:24 pm »
No need to thank me - these things looked great even sitting in my engine bay with wires hanging all over the place. I would never have considered this if it wasn't for this thread.

I'm off on hols on Friday but will sort this out on the holiday weekend and post some pics  :happy2:

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Re: Blue Bullet DRL - Version 2 (OEM Style)
« Reply #66 on: August 17, 2010, 11:29:21 pm »
I'm going to try and see if wiring the yellow wire to the auto light on the slingshot then has the same effect.

Will be leaving the vRS as is though I think :happy2:

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Re: Blue Bullet DRL - Version 2 (OEM Style)
« Reply #67 on: August 18, 2010, 12:32:43 pm »
Hey Carl,

Before I go butchering the car, what bits of the plastic did you chop to fit these DRLs? - I can't quite make it out from your photos but they look a tighter fit than the old ones.

Cheers,
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Re: Blue Bullet DRL - Version 2 (OEM Style)
« Reply #68 on: August 18, 2010, 01:34:22 pm »
I'll see if i still have some pics as it's a bit difficult to explain. :happy2:

Edit - Found them just uploading to PhotoBucket :happy2:

Edit 2 - Here you go






« Last Edit: August 18, 2010, 01:40:09 pm by vRS Carl »

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Re: Blue Bullet DRL - Version 2 (OEM Style)
« Reply #69 on: August 18, 2010, 05:08:10 pm »
Nice one  :happy2:

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Re: Blue Bullet DRL - Version 2 (OEM Style)
« Reply #70 on: August 22, 2010, 07:04:54 pm »
Any videos of any of the results Dave/Carl?  :party:  :popcornsoda:

Looks like a great little mod with cool extras. Ta  :smiley:
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Re: Blue Bullet DRL - Version 2 (OEM Style)
« Reply #71 on: August 25, 2010, 05:47:16 pm »
BTW fellas - my bad on the DRL turn off point; Drove to Cardiff today (from Northants) so hit the A14, M6, M42, M5 -> M4. All the Mercs and Audis I saw that had their headlights on for the rain had their DRL's on too. Mostly the MY2010 E classes and A6's + any age A5's.

If the DRL is close to the headlamp though, (on some models) it drowns out the natural light of the Xenon imo. Looks messy if they're too close like they're all part of the same cluster, which of course they're not, separate controls + wiring and bulbs.

Pointless having them on at night too, as after all they're daylight running lights. I'd still go for the dusk sensor turn off setup if I had any room to mount a set of the LED's like Carls though :indifferent:
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Re: Blue Bullet DRL - Version 2 (OEM Style)
« Reply #72 on: August 25, 2010, 06:15:30 pm »
^^^^
I very much agree with you, Pete - Very messy looking when closely positioned and mixed with headlights. And utterly pointless when daylight has said nite-nite. I don't understand why some car manufacturers are giving the option of simultaneous headlights and DRL's.


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Re: Blue Bullet DRL - Version 2 (OEM Style)
« Reply #73 on: August 25, 2010, 08:09:03 pm »
^^ Shame really, as all of them are £30k + cars. Makes the Xenons look cheap and dull imo.

Carl's, Dave's and your setup will look smarter as there's about 2 feet between both beam patterns  :happy2:
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Re: Blue Bullet DRL - Version 2 (OEM Style)
« Reply #74 on: August 30, 2010, 10:20:01 pm »
Quick update - the advice I gave regarding connecting the yellow DRL wire to the yellow/black on the car was based on the car with ignition on / engine off.

I fitted the DRLs today and wired them as mentioned previously and noticed that having the engine running gave a slightly different result.  The next six pics are:

1. Ignition on / engine off / no lights
2. Ignition on / engine off / side lights
3. Ignition on / engine off / main lights

4. Engine on / no lights
5. Engine on / side lights
6. Engine on / main lights

Spot the difference between 3 and 6....with the engine running, when switching on the main beam, the DRL goes dim instead of going completely off.  Not sure if I prefer this or not.  I may get the multimeter out and test things again but with the engine running this time  :ashamed: However, I'd be interested to hear opinions - DRLs dimmed with main beam or off???

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