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Offline RedRobin

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Re: 1.4 TSI PCV Options
« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2010, 10:17:33 pm »
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@ Sean aka T_T:

I can respect your reasoning and conclusion that, in your opinion, an aftermarket catch can system is not needed except on 'highly' modified (as you have defined) cars. I would like to know your views on whether you think that having an 'unnecessary' catch can does any harm.

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Re: 1.4 TSI PCV Options
« Reply #16 on: September 01, 2010, 11:31:16 am »
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@ Sean aka T_T:

I can respect your reasoning and conclusion that, in your opinion, an aftermarket catch can system is not needed except on 'highly' modified (as you have defined) cars. I would like to know your views on whether you think that having an 'unnecessary' catch can does any harm.

Thanks  :happy2:

OK,  . . . harm . . . Maybe slightly . . . lets list:
  • 1 - its an 'engine modification' - so it needs to be declared to insurance
  • 2 - its a non genuine part - so will have warranty implications
  • 3 - BSH (from what I can see - I could be wrong, so feel free to correct me) are NOT VAG specialists - so are less likely to be trusted (especially over any warranty 'disputes') over more recognised and established VAG specialist suppliers such as Revo
  • 4 - it will increase your oil consumption - 99% of the oil collected in the catch can is highly likely to flow back into the sump in standard or mildly modified road cars
  • 5 - it may have a detrimental effect on your valve stem oil seals - these are designed to be operated in an oily environment, so the catch can may be preventing one side of the seal from being lubricated - this can wear out both the seals and the actual valve guides, leading in the long term to burning more oil, loss of compression, loss of power
  • 6 - they look naff - IMVHO

Discuss . . .
« Last Edit: September 01, 2010, 01:05:44 pm by Teutonic_Tamer »
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Re: 1.4 TSI PCV Options
« Reply #17 on: September 01, 2010, 11:51:03 am »
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@ Sean aka T_T:

I can respect your reasoning and conclusion that, in your opinion, an aftermarket catch can system is not needed except on 'highly' modified (as you have defined) cars. I would like to know your views on whether you think that having an 'unnecessary' catch can does any harm.

Thanks  :happy2:

OK,  . . . harm . . . Maybe sligtly . . . lets list:
    • 1 - its an 'engine modification' - so it needs to be declared to insurance
    • 2 - its a non genuine part - so will have warranty implications
    • 3 - BSH (from what I can see - I could be wrong, so feel free to correct me) are NOT VAG specialists - so are less likely to be trusted (especially over any warranty 'disputes') over more recognised and established VAG specialist suppliers such as Revo
    • 4 - it will increase your oil consumption - 99% of the oil collected in the catch can is highly likely to flow back into the sump in standard or mildly modified road cars
    • 5 - it may have a detrimental effect on your valve stem oil seals - these are designed to be operated in an oily environment, so the catch can may be preventing one side of the seal from being lubricated - this can wear out both the seals and the actual valve guides, leading in the long term to burning more oil, loss of compression, loss of power
    • 6 - they look naff - IMVHO

    Discuss . . .
^ I've added numbers to aid discussion.

1 - Agreed. Mine is declared.
2 - I'm well outside warranty but of course this is a very relevant consideration for those who aren't.
3 - I'm not a fan of BSH and find them far too American nationalistic and lacking consideration of their products outside the bloody U S of A.
4 - Not bothered by extra oil consumption - It's replaced every 10k miles. Some people might be though.
5 - Such detrimental effect is of much more concern but I note you say "may", so not 100%.
6 - Very subjective. I love my over-engineered beautifully engineered Forge system.

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« Last Edit: September 01, 2010, 11:52:51 am by RedRobin »


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