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Re: Goodyear Eagle F1 (Asymmetric) vs Vredestein Ultrac Sessantas
« Reply #45 on: March 10, 2011, 09:57:38 am »
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Buying new tyres in pairs rather than a full set at a time is much easier on the wallet.

GY have recently brought out a new version of their F1 Asymmetrics. By the time you're ready, prices may have dropped. You can mix GY Directionals with Asymmetrics (not each on the same axle!) but will get the ESP twitching in occasionally. I did so as a transition.


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Re: Goodyear Eagle F1 (Asymmetric) vs Vredestein Ultrac Sessantas
« Reply #46 on: March 10, 2011, 10:18:26 am »
Never had Vreds, but the asyms were excellent - not PS2 excellent, but not PS2 prices either.

In the real world they're probably very similar in performance, what would swing it for me is the fact you can fully rotate the GYs, the Vreds are directional - in theory you can get much better use out of the 4.


The Vred Ultrac Sessanta is an assymetric pattern, the newer vred pattern is directional called the Cento.


 

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Re: Goodyear Eagle F1 (Asymmetric) vs Vredestein Ultrac Sessantas
« Reply #47 on: March 10, 2011, 10:18:51 am »
I just got the GY Asys, DEFO a softer ride than the PS2s.
Wonder how long these will take to "bed in"?

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Re: Goodyear Eagle F1 (Asymmetric) vs Vredestein Ultrac Sessantas
« Reply #48 on: March 10, 2011, 11:04:04 am »
Ahh, cheers Kings - not sure where I've got that from then! Not sure I'd call them a typical asym though..


Steve, I did 15km from Kelberg to the Ring and went out lapping on them.... so they take that long to bed in  :ashamed:
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Re: Goodyear Eagle F1 (Asymmetric) vs Vredestein Ultrac Sessantas
« Reply #49 on: March 10, 2011, 11:10:36 am »
... not even 10miles? Cant believe that, it was probably your hard drive there/at track that wore them in surely :-\

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Re: Goodyear Eagle F1 (Asymmetric) vs Vredestein Ultrac Sessantas
« Reply #50 on: March 10, 2011, 11:14:20 am »
I had them fitted whilst in Germany, as I ruined the last of the old rubber the day before lapping and couldn't get hold of any PS2s.

So, I drove back from the garage, went and did a 7/10ths lap and then carried on as normal.  :happy2:

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Re: Goodyear Eagle F1 (Asymmetric) vs Vredestein Ultrac Sessantas
« Reply #51 on: March 10, 2011, 11:15:03 am »
Great.... ordered the Asyms at 97 a corner I cannot refuse, 15-20 quid cheaper than online prices!  :jumping:

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Re: Goodyear Eagle F1 (Asymmetric) vs Vredestein Ultrac Sessantas
« Reply #52 on: March 10, 2011, 01:21:55 pm »
Ahh, cheers Kings - not sure where I've got that from then! Not sure I'd call them a typical asym though..



You're right they are one of a kind!!

Great.... ordered the Asyms at 97 a corner I cannot refuse, 15-20 quid cheaper than online prices!  :jumping:


Is that a fitted price for the f1's?

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Re: Goodyear Eagle F1 (Asymmetric) vs Vredestein Ultrac Sessantas
« Reply #53 on: March 10, 2011, 07:04:56 pm »
The Asymmetric 1 tyres are old hat.
The Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 tyres are out and are the ones to have.

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2011-Auto-Zeitung-Max-Performance-Tyre-Test.htm
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2011-Subjective-shootout-255-40-19-Max-Performance-Summer-Tyres.htm

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Either size is suitable and won't affect the gearing. They have different Load Indices (LI) though this should not be an issue either. The narrower tyre will possibly be slightly quieter and is also slightly cheaper.

Lesser tyres are only about £30 less per corner, so not worth it IMO.
I would also have a look at the new Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 tyres. Might be a bit cheaper but probably not as good.

http://www.porscheblogs.co.uk/tested-the-new-michelin-pilot-super-sport/
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/Is-the-Michelin-Pilot-Sport-about-to-get-Super.htm
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Re: Goodyear Eagle F1 (Asymmetric) vs Vredestein Ultrac Sessantas
« Reply #55 on: March 10, 2011, 07:15:59 pm »
im pretty certain on my vreds that hey were directional as there was a rotation directing arrow on them.  So they need to stay on the same side of the vehicle

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Re: Goodyear Eagle F1 (Asymmetric) vs Vredestein Ultrac Sessantas
« Reply #56 on: March 10, 2011, 07:16:24 pm »
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Re: Goodyear Eagle F1 (Asymmetric) vs Vredestein Ultrac Sessantas
« Reply #57 on: March 10, 2011, 07:17:02 pm »
Steve, I used the RNS 510 Sat Nav with a 7 digit postcode to get to this destination. :laugh:

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Re: Goodyear Eagle F1 (Asymmetric) vs Vredestein Ultrac Sessantas
« Reply #58 on: March 10, 2011, 07:17:07 pm »
on a side note,, any one used uni royal rainsports before?  Ive ben reading some good reviews of them.  v.good in the dry and apparently outstanding in the wet

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Re: Goodyear Eagle F1 (Asymmetric) vs Vredestein Ultrac Sessantas
« Reply #59 on: March 10, 2011, 07:22:24 pm »
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